We have been away and, from a comment made on the radio, I'm asking if the reduced tolerance level (5 ks) at Easter etc is now a permanent thing.
Is it!
And no, I am not trying to start a debate on speeding!
ninja_man,
May 26, 12:23pm
its back to 10km/h. i think the 5km/h tolerance was just for the eater break.
lk104,
May 26, 12:24pm
Not in the BOP, its permanently a 5km tolerance.
thejazzpianoma,
May 26, 12:35pm
+1 and no doubt expect it to creep in as perminant everywhere, its how these things have worked in the past. Its pretty pathetic given no actual research has been done regarding whether this will actually increase safety or whether it will actually cause more accidents through people looking at their speedometers more instead of the road.Not to mention this tollerance is several times less than the combined accuracy of a radar gun and a new speedometer. Its such a fine tolerance that setting a cars cruise control just bellow 100km/h will also likely result in a speeding ticket.
elect70,
May 26, 12:51pm
Yep its a buggermy car doesnt have 5 km increments on the speedo only 10 s .
ringo2,
May 26, 1:05pm
Well it is easy to fix that.just drive at the actual speed limit.
321mat,
May 26, 1:08pm
You are forgetting (As the police CERTAINLY have), that the speedo on almost all cars are incorrect, and depending upon varying conditions, including tyre pressure (and wear), your ACTUAL speed can vary by as much as 10-12 km/h even though the speedo can still read 100.
thejazzpianoma,
May 26, 1:11pm
This is the kind of non-thinking non-questioning compliance the Police have been cultivating through their expensive propaganda.
"just driving at the actual speed limit" is not that simple at all, and attempting to do so with the kind of accuracy the Police want may actually be dangerous.
NZTools,
May 26, 1:13pm
It is very very rare for a speedo to read lower than your actual speed. Most are designed to read 4 to 7% higher than the speed you are actually doing. So for example, if your speedo reads 105 kph, you are actually only doing 98 to101 kph,not the other way round.
Getting pinged for 110 kph means your speedo was probably reading 115 or more.
johnf_456,
May 26, 1:18pm
Yup unless you have non oem wheels but even then its a max speed limit not a must do.
pollymay,
May 26, 1:21pm
I'd like to see the percentages of people they catch that are at say 110 vs the real deals at 130+.
NZTools,
May 26, 1:22pm
even then, the non oem wheels and tyres are not to be any more than 5% larger than factory, which will only make your speedo more accurate.
I put bigger tyres on my bighorn, and now the roadside speed displays say i am doinngt exactly same as what my speedo is indicating. Before that, the speedo was reading high as per normal.
johnf_456,
May 26, 1:24pm
True that depends on the car
thejazzpianoma,
May 26, 1:26pm
And just how do you propose they do that! Then suppose you do, what evidence do you have that keeping to a speed tolerance that small dosn't actually increase the chances of a crash through looking at the speedometer more often.
Also, what about rental cars! How do you propose people get an accurate idea of what their actual speed accuracy is!
Just the idea that we should be working to tolerances beyond what the manufacturer of the vehicle intended is absurd at best.
This is just another "sounds good" measure being sold to us by the Police instead of proper tailored road Policing. Any measure that helps maintain an unsustainable revenue requirement seems to get the tick without any thought as to what it actually does for road safety.
thejazzpianoma,
May 26, 1:29pm
This is quite true of late model vehicles. When speed camera's became prevalent manufactures intentionally added a positive margin to speedometers to cover themselves against potential litigation.
However, older cars do not necessarily adhere to this and we should be able to drive them as we always have without undue risk of prosecution. We should also not have to rely on the manufactures tolerance being correct.
johnf_456,
May 26, 1:36pm
Most olders cars I have driven all over read faster than what you are currently doing. Its not just new cars, even old fashioned cable driven odometers under read.
lk104,
May 26, 2:19pm
Next news headline - "Driver has head on collision, too busy looking at speedo worried he might be 5km over" Cops are being far too pedantic, 10km tolerance needed - except for those pussies that drive at 70 and 80km - they cause more accidents than the driver doing 110km.
loose.unit8,
May 26, 4:17pm
There was more than the average road deaths for Easter this year wasn't there
bluecambridge,
May 26, 4:49pm
.and how exactly do you suggest someone goes about this! As far as I'm concerned if my speedo reads 100km then I am driving as responsibly as I possibly can - I don't have magic speed sensors built into my eyes or anything like that
bluecambridge,
May 26, 4:56pm
oh yeah let's all go out and pay to have our speedo calibration checked, sweet as, I've got far too much money anyway, why not waste some so that I can comply with some draconian law, you'd make a good policeman kazbanz, or even better an officious beaurocrat
wrong2,
May 26, 4:58pm
well when the law is retarded , why bother complying
i wonder how long Paula "PR" Rose would stay in the job if she recieved a smack in the face every time she spewed stat spinning lies to the media
bet it wouldnt be long
im_andrew,
May 26, 5:53pm
I think the reduced tolerance thing they do is more of a PR stunt than anything else. The last few long weekends they have done it, I have done my normal Masterton-NP run at 110km, been past cops parked up with speed cameras out and not been pulled over.
And 110km on my speedo is the same 110 on my gps and the same 110 on my phone (also has gps).
I think this whole speedos over reading thing is a crock of sh*t too.
carstauranga001,
May 26, 6:02pm
Rubish. When a youngster near on 40 years ago I absorbed the information in each and every Wheels magazine like a sponge. One item in the test figures was actual speed whilst speedo read 100 km/hr. They all read 5 plus km high. Yep, even back then Jazz.
carstauranga001,
May 26, 6:06pm
Not all of BOP. They are targeting the Kaimais in particual as the crash statistics there in winter are quite bad. 5 Km/hr won't change the stats IMO but maybe advertising the danger makes people drive more carefully overall.
richardmayes,
May 26, 7:21pm
The actual legal speed limit is unchanged if that's what you were asking!
All these comments about how supposedly difficult / unsafe it is to read the speedo are really worrying, I had no idea that so many among us were so unskilled.
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