Why on earth have many people decided to ignore the law at stop signs! Its become much more prevalent over the last few years. I have 4 stop signs on my route to work. Every morning at least 1, and usually more drivers in front of me simply ignore the law and sail on thru, often causing cars to slow rapidly to avoid a smash. Is it impatience, laziness, arrogance or just plain ignorance!
johnf_456,
Mar 15, 10:26am
Laziness and ignorance I say, but it doesn't help when some intersections have stop signs that a giveway sign would be appropriate and vice versa. So people get annoyed with having to stop for no reason, but yip a stop sign is a stop sign.
chito,
Mar 15, 10:34am
I agree. A lot ofthe stop signs in Hamilton should be giveway instead. I still stop incase a cop is looking, but most drivers don't. I'm thinking of the one by Rugby park for instance.
chicane8,
Mar 15, 10:35am
I agree some are marginal but some driving habits at stop signs are downright dangerous! I dont expect people guilty of this to admit to it but I would be interested to know if they feel they have ANY valid reason for putting their passengers and other drivers at risk.
chicane8,
Mar 15, 10:43am
And btw, Im not some doddery old bugger unable to cope with todays traffic. Ive driven professionally for many years without a major accident and feel I dont piss other drivers off with my driving. I also cant stand drivers who think that indicators are an optional accessory and those at roundabouts who wait for a change in the weather before proceeding.
smac,
Mar 15, 10:55am
I think the point above is that unfortunately at some stops there IS no risk. As long as you give way, there is plenty of visibility at a number of stops I go through regularly. I think this in turn causes people to be complacent about stops, and this will hurt at some stops that really really do need to be a stop. Same applies for the speed advisory signs, these are often waaaay out. There's a couple on SH50 - the first is marked 65 and you can cruise through at 100 easy. The next is marked at 65 and if you take that at more than 90 you'll be sideways if you don't know the road. That sort of situation is far more dangerous than rolling through a stop in a 50 zone with 50 meters clear view in all directions.
johnf_456,
Mar 15, 10:56am
Dam right, people who fail to use indicators really annoy me on rounadbout and especially on motorways. Then if they do use it, they do it after they have started there lane change. hello its 3seconds of 5 flashes before you do to warn people not push your way in with a sledge hammer! Or the people that can't get in the right lane so they move over 2 or 3 lanes to exit or join a motorway and instantly cut across to the right. Then there is the sort that can't use the entire merging lane. NZ's driving has shockingly declined that for sure.
chicane8,
Mar 15, 11:15am
Yep, NZ driving sure has gone down a peg or twenty. Ive also noticed, on occaision, drivers with L plates, on their own, OBVIOUSLY still on learners. Please read, and try to understand the Road Code.
tigra,
Mar 15, 11:17am
Actually they are called "Compulsory Stops"for that reason. I think many where you are turning left with the traffic flow could easily just be "GiveWay"s. Got one outside my work where 90% of the drivers dont stop. Hear the squeal of brakes/tyres on a regular basis as drivers make panic stops. Think they have got like Red lights, an "advisory" signal in some peoples eyes.
321mat,
Mar 15, 11:21am
To boy racers they certainly seem to be.
But then, the death of ANY boy racer is just natures way of thinning the herd, by removing the MOST stupid from the gene pool.
chicane8,
Mar 15, 12:01pm
Give Way when turning left at many stop signs does make sense but the same dickheads would sail on thru without even giving way.
r15,
Mar 15, 12:05pm
stopping at stop signs is bad for the environment. more heat is generated stopping, more fuel is burnt re-accellerating.
shocking! (not that i care much for the above bullshit, but environment always wins these arguements with law makers)
lookoutas,
Mar 15, 3:59pm
I met an associate by a Stop Sign one day, and as we sat there in the car discussing business/bullshitting for about an hour, we were flabbergasted at the number of drivers not stopping. We started taking note, and I think it was about 1 in 8 that actually did it right.
johnf_456,
Mar 15, 4:08pm
Nothing unusual there.
kandjaja,
Mar 15, 8:28pm
All of the above.
morrisjvan,
Mar 16, 12:10pm
I love it when drivers whizz through a stop or give way sign and then scoot down the edge of the road trying to merge ,should bring back the death penalty!
cocabowla,
Mar 16, 12:32pm
almost as annoying as the plonkers that will dawdle along in front at 40km/h and then dont bother to stop for the orange at traffic lights so you end up being left there till the next phase. anyway theres no presence of traffic police on the roads to ever catch the stop sign runners so they figure the gamble is worth it .
footplate1,
Mar 16, 1:57pm
Kohimarama Road is red-light-runner heaven!
johnf_456,
Mar 16, 2:10pm
Whats even more scary is cyclists do it all the time, if only they had a form of registration some how linked to a database so they could be plotted. I see it every day to and from work, already gave one a good yelling yesterday.
huffpuff01,
Mar 16, 2:43pm
A lot if stop signs are put in place due to Motion Camouflage. Even when the road appears to have perfect vision, and it appears stupid to have a stop sign. they are there for a purpose. "This effect is called motion camouflage, and it works because motion is difficult to perceive when it is directly along the line of sight. Since the object is stationary relative to the background, an observer doesn't see a change in the overall image and thus isn't cued to the presence of a moving object.
Though an approaching object increases in apparent size as it gets closer, it grows slowly when it is far away and will go unnoticed, especially if it is small. But as it gets closer, apparent size increases more rapidly. Moving from 1000 feet away to 900 feet, little change is seen. Advancing from 200 feet to 100 feet takes the same amount of time as 100 feet of movement at the greater distance, but the increase in apparent size is much more noticeable. Eventually the object seems to grow suddenly in size, and the motion camouflage is broken. That is called the looming effect"
huffpuff01,
Mar 17, 1:47am
That??
xacoon,
Mar 17, 10:00am
so the stop sign they have recently put in at the left turn lane at the weston turn off is necessary in your opinion! even though its in a 50km zone, you have vision to the right of about a km, from a good couple of hundred metres back from the corner! you think its advisable to have traffic backed up instead of the smooth flowing merging intersection it used to be! I think you are talking from an alternative orifice.
matthew111,
Mar 17, 10:58am
take the registration numbers and report them to Police.
gsimpson,
Mar 17, 1:23pm
It was done because of whinging from residents living near the corner wanting it easier to get out of their driveways. A more sensible solution that would have kept everyone happy would have been to put a small island on the corner itself to stop cars cutting the corner. If the traffic is in the main driving lane the cars can get out of their driveways easily. Cheaper and easier just to replace the sign.
xacoon,
Mar 17, 5:21pm
close to taking it out with a truck or a tractor just for shits and giggles, going to the council to have a d&m with the head of roading as soon as I get a chance
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