Dear Peter Marshall, Re: Feedback 4km/h tolerance

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mrfxit, Feb 17, 11:07am
LOL you muppet

Better go back up the thread & read the bit about speedo's being out "FROM BRAND NEW" & about wheels sizes etc etc

It's also very common for different brands of the same exact size tyre to be a different height which throws speedos out either way up or down

Go get an education about what ever it is you want to chat about BEFORE mouthing off your opinions

net_oz, Feb 17, 11:13am
What he is trying to say is "drive a european car and you wont have any problems".

dave653, Feb 17, 11:36am
My car has a manual gearbox. very easy to hear and feel any speed change, 1 ticket in 26 years(from my young stupidity).
Wifes car is auto, quiet, and comfy. Can't hear or feel any speed change. hence the need to 'overwatch' the speedo! 2 tickets in the 6 years we've had it. One was in Greenhithe. I thought 62 was slow!

ashwattau, Feb 17, 11:43am
Umm. Excuse me! I wasn't talking about speedo accuracy or inaccuracy. I was however talking about the speed limit tolerances, and the consequences that come to motorists who choose to ignore them.

ashwattau, Feb 17, 11:43am
Umm. Excuse me! I wasn't talking about speedo accuracy or inaccuracy. Wheel sizes and speedo inaccuracy is a different discussion. I was however talking about the speed limit tolerances, and the potential consequence that can come about from a person ignoring them.

mrfxit, Feb 17, 1:39pm
LOL & how can you be sure that the speed you ARE doing is correct if you can't be positive that your speodo is correct.
Cops won't accept speedo error as being a defence against a speeding ticket (remember it's FOUR kph over now.)
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LOL, had to edit the other post of mine because "someone" rang TM about it.(.This message was deleted.) Wonder how long the originalre-quote will last

mrfxit, Feb 17, 1:39pm
LOL & how can you be sure that the speed you ARE doing is correct if you can't be positive that your speodo is correct.
Cops won't accept speedo error as being a defence against a speeding ticket (remember it's FOUR kph over now.)
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LOL, had to edit the other post of mine because "someone" rang (or was a pretty fast email. oddly fast) TM about it.(.This message was deleted.) Wonder how long the originalre-quote will last

holden95, Feb 18, 6:35am
SImple fact is it is a limit. Not a minimum speed to travel. If you spend over your limit on your visa you pay why should this not be the same. As for watching the needle that is crap, if you have been driving for some time you know automatically what speed you are doing, eg if you are passing every one in front then your are obviously exceeding the speed limit if you are being passed all the time park up and wait until no one else is using the road

whqqsh, Feb 18, 7:25am
does your car brake downhills too! most cars even with cruise controll on over-run a fair bit & cops tend to sit at the bottom of downhill stretches

neville48, Feb 18, 7:40am
Till you go down a hill and theres a coppa at the bottom getting all the cars that have cruize control that will not slow them down on a downhill situation. Fact; An elderly gent I know sent his speeding ticket to the Nissan dealership thats sold him a brand new nissan and had this happen to him, they bantered back and forth re the situation and in the end the dealership paid the fine, the cruize control is not just that.

coolnzmum, Feb 18, 7:45am
Here's an idea, if the speed limit is 100 and you need a 10 km tolerance to keep to the limit, why not treat the speed limit as 90 and then you will travel at 100.

thejazzpianoma, Feb 18, 7:47am
Because that won't bring in the revenue.

thejazzpianoma, Feb 18, 7:51am
Wake up people, the cops have all the time in the world to try and catch out good safe drivers try to cruise with the traffic at 100km/h for being 1km/h over in the name of "safety".

Yet in another thread you see a poster who's daughter was dragged from her car by her hair and beaten up. That poster has found one of the perpetrators yet the Police have no interest in following it up.

Ask yourself this. what would increase "safety" more a few hours spent charging the thug that dragged the girl from the car or a few hours pulling people up for exceeding the speed limit by as little as 1km/h.

tonyrockyhorror, Feb 18, 7:52am
It's really quite simple: 100km/h is unnecessarily slow in the first place and driving at 90km/h is worse.

jrlaw, Feb 18, 7:54am
If the speed limit was 110 some would like to drive 125 and complain cannot please some of the time let all the time. Take care out there.

socram, Feb 18, 7:59am
Its a numbers game that means zilch.Where is the proof that 100kph is in any way safer than 110kph!At least iin Oz they have 110kph on most open roads.

If we were still in MPH and not KPH,what would the top limit be!60mph or 65 mph! If it was rounded off to 65mph, does that then mean the current 4kmh is a load of ******!UK motorways and dual carriageways are 70mph, but single lane roads are still 60mph, so maybe we should count ourselves lucky, as we don't really have many dual carriageways anyway.

Interesting that in France recently, on a motorway in pouring rain, at dusk, the speed restriction signs lit up - with a limit of 130kph.

socram, Feb 18, 7:59am
Its a numbers game that means zilch.Where is the proof that 100kph is in any way safer than 110kph!(Yes, we know all about the physics, but we are on about driving, not running into a tree or crossing the centre line.)At least in Oz they have 110kph on most open roads.

If we were still in MPH and not KPH,what would the top limit be!60mph or 65 mph! If it was rounded off to 65mph, does that then mean the current 4kmh is a load of ******!UK motorways and dual carriageways are 70mph, but single lane roads are still 60mph, so maybe we should count ourselves lucky, as we don't really have many dual carriageways anyway.

Interesting that in France recently, on a motorway in pouring rain, at dusk, the speed restriction signs lit up - with a limit of 130kph.

gammelvind, Feb 18, 8:02am
Treat it all like a game guys, in rugby a forward pass increases your chance of winning so long as the ref dosn't see it, he does you get penalised. Don't forward pass equals no penalty, simple.

socram, Feb 18, 8:02am
The higher the speed limit, the fewer the number of people who drive at that speed, hence the 75/80kph mimsers we have now.

gunhand, Feb 18, 9:09am
While there are some roads out there that would support speeds up and beyond 120kph(200 if on a bike lol)would you really want some of the most hopless drivers out there doing even higher speeds! They cant control what they have now and some would want to increase it!Even though ya gunna die if some one hits ya at 100kph I think making it 120 plus would just increase the carnage. And if you increase the limit do you then increase trucks and busses. The poor tourists would see less than they do now.
And the way they design some speedo's is a joke. On some theres barely a needle width between 100 and 105 kph. The ones with wide gaps seem to be easier to keep at a speed or close to it.

ashwattau, Feb 18, 9:10am
Correct your speedo may not be correct. But that's totally irrelevant and beside the point.

Did I not just post a response to this! Read #52 AGAIN. Look I'm not talking about what speed the car is ACTUALLY doing in terms of accuracy of radar detectors and wheel sizes etc. I'm talking about what speed the driver THINKS he is doing. An attitude. My first post was simply trying to highlight the fact that the "it's okay to abuse the tolerance" attitude (seems to be all too common) is actually a very "dumb" attitude to have. That's all I was trying to say in my original post, and I'm sorry it took this much effort and struggle to adequately convey it. Next time I'll go to more effort in making my communication clearer and more concise.

As for the second part of your response! Well I'm not even going to try responding to that drivel other than to say if you so feel a need to conjure up drama and conspiracy to keep yourself entertained then all I can say is go for gold.

thejazzpianoma, Feb 18, 9:25am
Didn't see the original post ashwattau but I would just like to point out that there is no tolerance at all to abuse now.

My point is that their should be a fair and reasonable tolerance. (say 15km/h with it increased to 25km/h for passing lanes, passing maneuvers and a sensible distance there after)

With a fair and reasonable tollreance in place if someone abuses it then they they deserve the ticket. I have no sympathy for them.

Abuse of a tolerance by some is no reason to penalize the rest of us. I just want to return to the days when I could go for a nice relaxing drive without stressing over the speedometer and worrying about passing someone for fear of coping a ticket.

When driving your eyes should be way off down the road pre-empting anything thats happening long before you get to it. Shifting your focus from extremes every few seconds is both tiring and removes your concentration from where it should be. Your rear view mirror is a bit different as you can actually pick up changes using your peripheral vision, you can't do the same with a speedometer to pinpoint accuracy.

sparkychap, Feb 18, 9:52am
LOL, reminds me of the french chef Raymond Blanc who was taken for court in England for doing 120mph on the motorway(70mph limit) and defended it by claiming that he'd set his cruise control for 98.

volkier, Feb 18, 11:21am
Just do 250km/h + ; then the police wouldn't even try to chase you since they know their car's can't catch you.

mrfxit, Feb 18, 1:14pm
Exactly
It's really easy to drift between 95kph &105kph on a longer trip . tack on any low reading speedo (tyre change from brands /sizes/ wear (new to worn out) & PING