If you mean a new car that copies the style of yesteryear then that is absolutely retro. Because it is based on an passed cycle and makes it contemporary. The old car that it is based on won't be anymore. But the the car you are talking about IS the stuff of postmodernity and *that* is retro.
Pt cruiser-retro. Original (whatever that was.) = not retro.
Just as those little nissans that look like Italian cars from the 50s are 'retro' - they imitate a recognised cycle and make it contemporary. but the car they are based on might very well not be retro at all. Retro is more about the deciding to own one than it is about the car itself in that instance.
hallett76,
Feb 21, 4:01pm
Why didn't he change the mudguards and grille out! Tries to decieve people and then shoots himself in the foot lol.
phillip.weston,
Feb 21, 4:20pm
I did think of that also but there are some other dead give aways that it's an import too - the hubcaps, electro-jet carburettor, 180km/h speedo with warning over 100km/h, maroon interior (nz models were more of a tan/brown). The 'Sigma' symbol simply designates that it's a sedan, but with the demise of the 'Lambda' in the earlier generation Sigma was its more common name.
gunhand,
Feb 21, 4:22pm
HQs were never going to become classics either, now there sort after classic rust. Or would an HQ not be classic as such! Just that theres hardly any good ones left and suddenly people want them. Just like that mitsi really, hardly any good ones left. Everything becomes rare and eventually sort after. God XFs seem to be wanted now as well and they were terrible things. That mitsi has more going for it than any old HQ but the masses dictate its not collectable or desirable yet. It seems if its made in america or aussie its worth something, neather were great car makers as far as quality goes. But they were very basic whichI guess kept them going for ever, apart from the rust.
johnf_456,
Feb 21, 4:23pm
So a car is only good if its rwd!
richardmayes,
Feb 21, 4:49pm
Interesting view.
IMHO the Mitsi Evo 4,5,6 and the Honda Type R Integra are going to totally eclipse 1980s turbo Mitsubishis as all-time classic Japanese sportscars.
1/ On the road they are simply far better cars.
2/ But more importantly WRT "Classic" status, they are far more iconic and emblematic of their time.The glory days of Japanese performance cars, when fast Jappers grew up from being merely average RWD turbos into genuinely world-leading 4WD rally cars and seriously well-sorted, rev-happy FWD hot hatches.
3/ You can see the market bearing out what I am saying when you consider that these carsare already sought after and holding their values. because that type of car is now out of production and you simply can't get a new car that offers a similar experience, even if you have a far higher budget than what you would need to get into an evo or a type R.
mugenb20b,
Feb 21, 5:29pm
Sure. Why not!
pebbles61,
Feb 21, 5:48pm
Retro or not it works for some vehicles (Not PT cruisers *puke*).
Look at the 'modern classic' Triumphs
bestgames,
Feb 21, 6:11pm
modern classic is marketing hype - it is predicting that in 20 years it will be seen as a classic. If you want to subscribe to modern (/contemporary) classic before it has had a chance to earn the title go ahead.
It's as redundant as someone saying a new television or or fishtank will be a 'classic'. It might as easily be forgotten or complete garbage.
bob1088,
Feb 21, 6:52pm
flatracer is not alone in his love of float-on-red wine Citroens - had a few myself and like present BX so after an Xantia activa now - any avail!cheers.
tuttyclan,
Feb 21, 7:35pm
I see this one is manual too,something that to my knowledge was never an option on a NZ new SE in the FWD shape.It was a option on the previous RWD model but rare I think.I also noticed the back bumper is a give away too as to where the number plate sits.On a NZ new one the plate is between the tailights.
tuttyclan,
Feb 21, 7:51pm
Very nice tidy FWD Sigma but I prefer the older RWD version and they have a better track record in terms of reliabilty.The only real bonus of this one here apart from being tidy is that its manual.
pebbles61,
Feb 21, 7:55pm
I think you might of misunderstood (not sure to be honest), but 'Modern classic' Triumphs are new bikes that are made too look like 60's and 70's Triumphs, but having a modern engine that doesn't leak oil and an electric starter etc. i.e. the current model Bonneville etc
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