I was traveling through a 4 entry roundabout on Sunday & the approaching driver at the next entry carried on to make the left turn, nearly causing an accident. When I questioned him he yelled back new rules this morning, WTF; & why is there 2 new rules, the T rule is old.
socram,
Mar 27, 9:29am
If drivers can't manage a roundabout correctly - especially seeing as the rules haven't even changed, they should be off the road until they have learned.But will the cops be lying in wait to give them a good talking to or will they be waiting to pounce on nana doing 55k!
panicky,
Mar 27, 9:50am
The T rule is not the same as the old rule, you obviously did not understand it.The T rule only applied to UNCONTROLLED intersections i.e. NO GIVEWAY or STOP signs and no TRAFFIC LIGHTS.The reason they have had to change it is because people did not follow it as it was confusing.
pnh4,
Mar 27, 9:54am
I know about uncontrolled signs etc, but on the TV ad it didnt make that point clear
twink19,
Mar 27, 7:15pm
the diagram in the Herald shows every intersection, T, cross road with give way or lights that the car turning right gives way, nothing for roundabouts
smac,
Mar 27, 7:21pm
Incorrect. If you don't know the rules (new or old) why would you even consider posting in one of these threads!
richardmayes,
Mar 27, 7:33pm
Yes - of the few mishaps I've seen, most of them have involved confused people at roundabouts or traffic lights, who haven't yet figured out that traffic signals still mean exactly what they say.
We have a couple of tiny roundabouts in Wellington that are just a circle painted in the middle of the road. seem to make it easy for people to forget that the idea of a roundabout is that when you enter it you give way to anyone who's already on it, as per the give way sign.
footplate1,
Mar 27, 7:48pm
I recall a few low profile ones in Ngaio - mostly worked.There is one in Auckland at Kepa Road, Napipi and Orakei Rd.Scrary to see the large trucks just drove over them.Really not happy about low-relief/painted round-abouts.
smac,
Mar 27, 7:50pm
Nah I hate those, stupid idea. Some people treat them as a round about, some don't, which ends up being worse than not having it. They had one at Bunnythorpe a few years back. Motorcyclist hit it at speed and was killed.was removed.
manukarose1,
Mar 27, 8:33pm
*uncontrolled situations - which could mean even at lights if you have the same light/sign the new rule is to be applied.
socram,
Mar 27, 8:52pm
I still can't believe that under the old rule, even at traffic lights, the give way to the right rule applied.If a set of traffics lights isn'ta "controlled intersection", I don't know what is.
cjdnzl,
Mar 27, 10:50pm
Personally, I reckon that NZTA did a piss poor job of of educating people about the rule changes. They said nothing about turning into roads with two lanes, where the left-turning car goes into the left lane and the right-turning car goes into the right lane, both at the same time.Especially when 90% of drivers turning right just illegally turn into the left lane, cutting off any left-turning car.And they didn't foresee dumbo drivers turning left into a roundabout cutting off cars from their right "coz left-turners have right-of-way" ! They need to produce a comprehensivepublicity campaign to highlight ALL intersection rules, not just isolate this "two rules are changing" approach.They have actually fostered indecision and wrong understandingamong drivers with this half-arsed attempt at education.A schoolboy/girl could have done better.
scuba,
Mar 27, 11:06pm
rules about turning into two lane roads are unchanged so why confuse the issue!
turn into the closest lane . right turn rule doesn't come into it.
rules entering a roundabout haven't changed,
when entering the roundabout give way to all traffic on the roundabout. only thing half arsed is the driver.
only two rules have changed.
when turning right give wayunless your top of the T. Then they give way to you
tonyrockyhorror,
Mar 27, 11:08pm
I agree. Typical government department incompetence.
scuba,
Mar 27, 11:11pm
good lord you saw some nana doing 55 kph . hope you 555ed her.
tonyrockyhorror,
Mar 27, 11:11pm
There's no confusion. They had the opportunity while they had the attention of many people to clear up some of the shocking habits these lazy drivers have. They should have taken the opportunity to do something about it and the Police should have followed it up with a campaign to stamp it out. But alas, road safety isn't their priority.
therafter1,
Mar 27, 11:15pm
They probably didn??
tonyrockyhorror,
Mar 27, 11:17pm
Yet further proof my desired complete retest at 10 year intervals has much merit. Alas, it's not politically feasible because those very morons that need it most are 'good' drivers.
smac,
Mar 27, 11:24pm
I'll ask the same question.what confusion! All reports to date indicate no serious issues, and no reported accidents due to confusion. The only place there seems to be confusion is on this message board.
People are chiming in with anecdotal "this person cut me off". Guess what.that's always happened! Seems to me you guys are just annoyed your foreseen carnage hasn't happened, so you're now looking for something else to whinge about. Get a life guys.
scuba,
Mar 27, 11:26pm
so it was removed cos the motorcyclist was a dick head!
tonyrockyhorror,
Mar 27, 11:30pm
It's not a controlled in terms of vehicles that are on the same signal. It never has been. Did you not drive before nearly every set of lights had a right and left turning red and green arrow!
I can't believe people can't grasp this concept.
therafter1,
Mar 27, 11:38pm
You would have had to have seen it to understand why the motorcycle may have hit it. It was simply a concrete dome in the middle of the road about 2 metres across and about 2 or 300 hundred high. It didn??
pauldw,
Mar 27, 11:49pm
Now that there's a roundabout Give Way sign there's no longer a requirement to have an advance warning that there's a roundabout ahead. One more reason not to treat the road like a race track.
therafter1,
Mar 27, 11:55pm
A few assumptions going on here ! . you don??
gedo1,
Mar 28, 12:18am
Where on earth did you grow the concept that an intersection with lights could be regarded in any way as an uncontrolled intersection!Uncontrolled intersection has no lights and no signs or marks governing the passage of traffic.In these case the rules including the new rules apply.
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