Well I think he did too. But then I don't get what he was on about in #17. Was he questioning what I was saying, trying to explain something to me (in which case, what!), or trying to back up what I was saying!
fordcrzy,
May 17, 4:47pm
the link to the lvvtanzsanzta or what ever they are cleared it up. thankfully my manufacturer has fairly vague tolerances so i can run up to -1.6 front and -2.3 rear if need be so my plan of -1.5 and -2.0 is with in spec.yay for me. although i concur that some manufacturers have stupid "recomended" settings based on tyre wear or even fuel consumption figures alone. my car is a sports car so i will dam well drive it like one, and the alignment settings are to keep the tyre wear even based on that driving style
smac,
May 17, 5:07pm
In reality if its any kinda serious machine you're gonna have an adjustable set up. Get it certed, change it, WOF guy ain't gonna check it.
I never said this. I've been hacked.
bubbles244,
May 17, 7:59pm
by the time you sit in it you'd have 5 degrees of negative camber
fordcrzy,
May 18, 5:38pm
mines alreay perfectly legal with adjustables and cert. just didnt want them to move the goal posts so to speak
skydog,
May 18, 6:02pm
Sit in your car while they set up the suspension,Made a big impact on my racecar and the way it handles.Some cars like BMW `srequire weights added to the seat area to set up.
scuba,
May 18, 10:51pm
most cars require specific weights- a lot of techs don't bother.hence cars reading out of spec.
vjregal770,
May 19, 6:28pm
Bullsh1t. Unless something is RIDICULOUSLY wrong, no car's camber will move 3 or 4 full degrees just by sitting in it. At least, I've yet to encounter that, after only 17 years doing alignments.
Generally, you can give the right hand side 1/4 to 1/2 a degree more -ve camber, and both sides will read near-as-dammit even when you sit in it.
And as for specs - I only bring them up because the customer like to see his make/model etc or they think it hasn't been done "correctly". Fact is, any shaved ape can "follow the arrow" from red (out of spec) to green (in spec). Red bad, green good - real PhD material, that.
Who knows, maybe I was the last to be taught alignments WITHOUT using specs, so as to know what the numbers actually meant, and how to compensate for angles which are not adjustable (one of the reasons I try to avoid compliance vehicles).
It did take a while didn't it. Must be some IQ's around like that.
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