Meh, if you are happy with it then fine. Just thought it was only fair to point it out given your kids are driving it and it sounded like they may wrap it around something.
cowboy110,
May 20, 6:22pm
My first car was a 63 EJ Holden.I was just grateful every morning when it coughed into life.Other than a 13" tyre I doubt any of the 4 wheels had the same tread pattern, profile or even crossply vs radial on them.Used to pick them off the silage stack when I needed new tyres.If it held air it was a goodie. Airbags!.that's what we were out cruising for on Saturday night. ABS is what we tried to show off through our skin tight tee shirts and ANCAP would have been some sort or lecherous comment towards the opposite sex that we'd shortened down.
johnf_456,
May 20, 6:39pm
Its not atomic green yet!
robotnik,
May 20, 6:39pm
The world has changed since you were chugging around at 30mph in your EJ on dirt roads. There weren't incompetent idiots blasting around in multi-tonne SUVs either.
cowboy110,
May 20, 6:46pm
Nah, just incompetent idiots blasting around in EJ Holdens with mismatched tyres and tight jeans full of testosterone. Young, dumb and full of.(better not go there. Ban material).So nothing's really changed then.
thejazzpianoma,
May 20, 6:56pm
A key difference now is if you smack something like your EJ Holden (or for that matter the Hyundai) into one of the many modern "passenger safety cage" type vehicles the Holden/Hyundai winds up bearing more than its fair share of the impact.Which makes it doubly unsafe. You also have more traffic and in the case of the Holden in particular other drivers assuming you can stop on a dime in any conditions because they can.
But meh, as long as they know about it they can make their own decisions. Thats all I was worried about, I would have felt stink if they got hurt and I had said nothing. Didn't mean to take away from the mean bargain, those are the sorts of buys I enjoy myself.
cowboy110,
May 20, 7:08pm
Sorry you're right.We should be taking this more seriously.attitudedesignz.you'r- e a bad parent for buying you're inexperienced sons such a death trap.Shame on you!
tractor9,
May 20, 7:28pm
For three hundy, she's a minter !
thejazzpianoma,
May 20, 7:30pm
Quick call CYPS! They can come and get them in one of their Multipla's!
Or worse. we could post a link to this thread in parenting.
petal_91,
May 20, 7:36pm
I would be worried that a government depart is wasting money on an expensive European car then!
Actually, I imagine the Multipla is probably well priced, but then most people think European is expensive, so I can imagine the public outcry.
thejazzpianoma,
May 20, 7:39pm
They have had them for years (in fact probably don't run them anymore). They should have saved the government a fortune as they cost about half as much to run as most of the other options available at the time. Very reliable and low service costs too. Initial depreciation was attrocoius though, but the Government kept them for about 10 years so was not really a big issue.
Good safety too and if I had to do a runner in a hurry from someone in a people mover of that age the Multipla would be my choice every time!
Poor attitdedesignz, not only have I heckled him about safety I have reduced his thread to a Multipla sales pitch. I would say I won't do it again. but we all know thats a lie.
cowboy110,
May 20, 7:47pm
I was gonna say.don't get him started on Multiplas.but I see it's too late.
For a People mover at the time that was pretty good. Remember the Estima of that period did a lovely job of decapitating the driver in an accident.
That test was also the very first one, they made significant improvements straight after they did that crash test, its the revised models that Cyps have.
Salute!
doug207,
May 20, 8:25pm
Rubbish. It was safer than most other smallish well priced cars. I had a '96 Lantra and it was a well made car compared to the Corollas and heinous Golfs of the era, let alone the pure junk FIATs that I've had the unfortunate gift of driving, don't even get me started on the Mitsi Mirage. It had a drivers airbag and ABS, it hauled up faster than the same era Corolla And he's paid $300 for it.I paid $1300 for a mint one and thought I was doing well! An all round good little car those.
The offset crash test resulted in the passenger compartment on the driver's side being substantially deformed from the roof to the floor.
Protection from serious head injury for the driver was poor in both the full frontal and offset crash tests. Protection from serious head injury for the passenger was poor in the full frontal crash test."
You are fight though Fiats of the age were also shocking in a crash, but they became quite the opposite as of 1999 when the likes of the Punto was a 4 start or higher NCAP
doug207,
May 20, 8:42pm
As I said, the FIATs of the age and most other smallish cars were terrible, the Hyundai was one of the better cars and is a brilliant first car, i personally do not see the issue here. The '96 Corolla I have been driving today has now got 440,000km on it and nobody has died in it and it's supposedly unsafe.
http://www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/ncap/ncap_car_results.jsp!make=Fiat&model=Punto&year=1996&publicationDate=1997-02-01 This Punto is pathetic. I'm not very knowledgeable on FIATs though, but of the mid 90's models I have driven I wouldn't own any, they're crap to drive and poorly put together with materials I'd complain about if they were in a LEGO box. Later FIATs are different and I agree with the majority of your arguments for them (even the Multipla, they actually drive pretty well) If I was getting that Lantra as a first car I would be chuffed! My mates and I had 80's rubbish, full of rust, most got crashed and we didn't die.
johnf_456,
May 20, 8:42pm
Who cares how safe it is, talk about derailing this thread with the same Euro / Fiat / Multiple drivel.
thejazzpianoma,
May 20, 8:50pm
80's rubbish! Sheesh, my first car was from the early 30's. I was excited about 4 gears and 12 volt ignition. even if that was from 2 x 6V battery's.
doug207,
May 20, 8:58pm
We thought they were cool at the time. You win that one!
trogedon,
May 21, 6:14am
(You had 12 volt.I've still got a car with 6 volt.)
;-) Very good score AD.
attitudedesignz,
May 21, 6:34am
Cheers John.
I wish there was a button you could click to ban some members from posting in a thread.
Jazz, i honestly couldn't care less what the "safety" is like for this $300 car. I'm sure you could pick holes in everyones car (actually you do) but it's getting very tiresome reading the same sh1t over & over, give it a rest PLEASE!
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