A Palmerston North car yard has been robbed at gunpoint.
About 5.20pm yesterday police were called to Rose City Cars, on the corner of Grey and Ngata streets, after a man allegedly brandished what was thought to be a rifle.
Detective Sergeant Dave Thompson confirmed that police thought a gun was used in the holdup.
A black Subaru rally-style car was stolen and was seen speeding toward the Botanical Rd area.
mmm ironic really when a car yard gets ripped off cause its usually the other way round. palmy is under seige at the moment with burglarys and the such.
msj23,
Aug 8, 7:29pm
paull wrote: mmm ironic really when a car yard gets ripped off cause its usually the other way round. quote]
LMAO!
Best thing ive read today
msj23,
Aug 8, 7:29pm
paull wrote: mmm ironic really when a car yard gets ripped off cause its usually the other way round.quote]
LMAO!
Best thing ive read today
flashgordon_nz,
Aug 8, 7:31pm
found today. thats the word in rallying circles.
thekingofcars,
Aug 8, 8:38pm
confirmed found today :)
morrisman1,
Aug 8, 8:44pm
more importantly, have they found the scum that did it! Cars are replaceable, but I think its more important to catch these guys who think its OK to hold up someone with a firearm
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 8, 9:02pm
They are likely yet another group of repeat offenders who just do crime after crime, and will continue to do so until there is enough media attention or other stimulus to get the Police to follow through and actually make an effort to catch them.
Most of these criminals are ridiculously easy to apprehend. However they continue to offend because each time a crime is reported the Police just go through the motions and then put the file on the shelf. They will have ticked all the box's but made zero effort to actually catch them. Hang, even if someone locates them the chances of the Police responding in a timely manner to pick them up perhaps 30% at best.
That's the way it goes, and until people are made aware and demand change thats the way it will stay.
Now this case has been in the media its likely they have already been or shortly will be apprehended. This may finally put a temporary stop to a trail of ever escalating crimes from these guys spanning years.
johnf_456,
Aug 8, 9:04pm
Now you have woken him OP.
asa50,
Aug 8, 9:31pm
Please enlighten, what changes should be made. The rate of 30% is based on what evidence!
net_oz,
Aug 9, 3:41am
Jeez don't ya get sick of the same old crap coming from thejazzpianoman. Always the fault of the police. Bet thejazzpianoman, was one of those that was always gettinghis arse kicked as a kid for nicking lollies from the local dairy. Wasn't his fault he was nicking them. That dude has no respect for authority.
chebry,
Aug 9, 4:31am
Its usually easier to get a test drive than at gunpoint
pollymay,
Aug 9, 5:46am
The funny part is I like jazz and agree with a lot of what he says. There is a lot of brain washing through the whole system. Start to finish it's completely hopeless apart from the odd gem.
People seem to side against him cause of the relentless walls of text he posts every time. Some of it is a bit tinfoil hat but if you've ever been completely shafted by the current system then you probably wouldn't have a single kind word for it either.
magicmat,
Aug 9, 6:05am
Jazz is right, the police will do little to follow up thefts like this in the most part. The fact this one has media attention and was allegedly an armed theft may prompt special attention but the usual procedure would be to do bugger all.
smac,
Aug 9, 6:08am
No, people get annoyed with him because as soon as the topic of Police is mentioned he starts trolling (correct word) out endless lines about how the system is broken, how it's repeat offenders, how they never respond.blah blah. Plus apparent 'statistics' which are just numbers pulled out of his head.
What he doesn't get is that it's this sort of crap that has stopped people listening to the otherwise good information that he has.
pollymay,
Aug 9, 6:25am
I skim a lot of it lol. We've all heard it, yes. Reminds me of this comic.
I just choose not to engage with it. There are plenty on here that are the complete opposite that just post twaddle as well, about as consistently. Also choose not to engage cause then posts get reported and everyone lands up having a cry.
friendly_prawn,
Aug 9, 6:31am
In this case Im not sure the word thief is appropriate. He has gone well beyond simple theft.
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 9, 7:03am
Personal experience. I had someone rip my business off who was travelling from town to town committing a fraud every second day.
This had gone on for months because the Police had not even taken the most elementary steps to stop him (like getting the cheques fingerprinted) despite an average of $80'000 of fraud being committed every month.
By following his obvious patterns of behaviorI was easily able to pre-empt where this guy was going to strike next and managed to pre-warn the business's and have them stall the guy and contact me.
This worked multiple times yet every time we had this guy and I rang the Police they failed to respond in a timely manner. Sometimes I would get a phone call hours later saying they were ready to act upon my request.
This is just one incident, I have seen the same nil response for even for more serious incidents like attempted kidnapping.
What needs to be done!
I am quite sure that most crime is commited by a small number of criminals that just perform crime after crime and go unchecked. Significantly more Police time is wasted "going through the motions" ticking box's with no results than would actually take to catch these criminals. (In the example above it took just a few hours work to compile a network of business's and obtain security footage, run fingerprints and find this guy)
I think initially the Police need to employ some bright non-sworn investigators. Equip them with a phone and email and get them to pick up one file at a time and follow it through.
Once "caught up" there should be abundant resources for the Police to continue in this manner without extra assistance. Although I think it would be a better move to keep the savy non-sworn investigators and use it as an opportunity to let go some of the many Police who are simply not up to snuff.
There are a bunch of other strategies that I think would work well too but for sake of making this somewhat readable that's the key thing I would change.
Remember we are a couple of small isolated and well connected islands with excellent infrastructure and a small population. Finding and apprehending criminals is incredibly easy in these conditions.
Also. while this is just one example, I base my statements on seeing several such situations first hand. All followed much the same pattern.
kcf,
Aug 9, 7:10am
I can't believe that something with a market as tiny and close knit as the race/rally car community would be nicked.
Much less at gunpoint.
Talk about a way to get every local cop after you in a big hurry.
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 9, 7:13am
Because criminals usually get away with crime after crime unchecked they get increasingly brazen as time goes on. There were a couple of young teenagers in Papamoa who had burgled over 80 houses yet the Police had not even got as far as setting up a family conference. that should give you some idea of how much they can get away with.
friendly_prawn,
Aug 9, 7:43am
My house got burgled a while back so I rang the cops as you do. Nothing happened. I had to do my own detective work to find out who had done the burglary and I did find out who it was and I did get all my property returned. If I had of left it up to the cops nothing would have happend. The problem is the cops just dont have the time or the manpower to deal with most situations like they should.
friendly_prawn,
Aug 9, 7:43am
My house got burgled a while back so I rang the cops as you do. Nothing happened. I had to do my own detective work to find out who had done the burglary and I did find out who it was and I did get all my property returned. If I had of left it up to the cops nothing would have happend. The problem is the cops just dont have the time or the manpower to deal with most situations like they should. And yes I agree, once they get away with a few there is no stopping them. Many burglars when eventually caught are often found to be guilty of lots of burglaries. If only the police had the manpower to follow every one up, it would put a stop to a lot of follow on crime.
mrfxit,
Aug 9, 7:44am
Over the years .(& theres a few), for the most part, I fully agree with you. Part of the problem is the lack of hard core "in ya face" evidence & the abundance of "overly clever" lawyers getting the crooks off on technicality's, hence wasting police time & resources.
Kim Dotcom's case is a classic of manipulating the results of the system because of incorrect paper work.
Yes he's a genius (however he's done it) but aren't most megalomaniacs
mrfxit,
Aug 9, 7:49am
I had a gun point robbery at a service station I was working at. The security company FAILED to respond (tho they admitted later toreceiving the alarm notice ). The police took over 2 hours to respond The boss who had to travel 45 minutes was there within 1 hour after I called.
elect70,
Aug 9, 10:16am
First ive ever heard ofcar yard beingrobbed at gunpoint .Robber must bebereal dumbass .
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