I did something a little silly and bought a b5 audi a4 (to fix up), I've heard you mention an aftermarket parts supplier on here, qualitat! do they do engine parts! I think I'll be needing valves (timing failure) so weighing up repair vs 2nd hand motor.
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 24, 8:19pm
Yip, Qualitat is the best I have found in NZ for parts. They are an importer of genuine parts but also have a service division so are in a good position to be helpful. Others may have tried some suppliers I havn't and have some ideas too.
If you have quite a list of bits it might be worth checking the numbers against some U.S and U.K online suppliers too. Sometimes all those little bits and pieces you need add up.
Best of luck with it.
phillip.weston,
Aug 24, 8:21pm
try staparts too
a.woodrow,
Aug 24, 8:23pm
Cheers, I can get normal service items through work but not engine components. I'm think it will be a nice car to drive when done, is rear wheel drive with the 1.8 and manual. just a shame previous owner didn't change the belt when due
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 24, 8:23pm
BTW, don't spend too much on it, the B5 is showing its age now and depending on spec may not be worth a lot. I take it you know the whole front (bumper/radiator) is designed to come off easily to get in there for that sort of work!
a.woodrow,
Aug 24, 8:25pm
Thanks, I had a quick look but they only seem to have earlier model audi stuff, might flick them an email as well though.
a.woodrow,
Aug 24, 8:27pm
Yep I've watched it on youtube, nice idea for access but maybe they could have just given them a slightly longer nose.
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 24, 8:31pm
Yes, age is well and truly catching up with the belts on some of the low km ones too. People always seem to forget about the x number of years part to a cambelt interval.
I agree it should be a nice machine to run around in. They were the first of that era of modern Audi's and quite a step up on the early 90's offerings IMO. Just remember they are not quite as solid in a crash as they might feel. O.K for the age group though.
I havn't driven a manual one of those but would suspect that transmission will be very nice if my MK3 Golf GTI of the era is anything to go by.
Is it a Turbo! The 1.8 is a bit lack luster without it, but is nice as is and has potential for further tuning if it does.
Sounds like a fun proposition.
nzdoug,
Aug 24, 8:34pm
Qualitat AKL Get on their email list. Best non dealer. Good people
a.woodrow,
Aug 24, 8:37pm
Sadly I don't think it is, I'm actually picking it up tomorrow. I believe it's the ADR motor but I will post when I know for sure, and I might put a few pics up of the damage if its impressive enough once it's stripped down
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 24, 8:38pm
Yes. but they are German's remember!
I think given that you are doing more than just a cambelt change you will get on really well with that system. It dosn't take long, the air con stays connected BTW you just tuck its radiator around to the side. That video should show you what I mean.
Mrs Jazz is calling so I will leave you to it for the night. Give us a buzz anytime if you are after idea's. 00quattro00 may be of use as well, he has quite a bit more experience than me with that sort of stuff from the sound of it.
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 24, 8:39pm
Sounds great, I will look foward to the update.
00quattro00,
Aug 24, 8:51pm
ADR engine is just your basic 1.8 20v, having broken the cambelt it will have bent 5 valves at a minimum, whip the head off and check it out, parts for these are cheap, also there is plenty of a4's, mk4 golfs, a3's and passats that all used this engine so a replacemet could be found quite easily, if you did get one from a golf or a3 you will need to swap over the a4 manifolds, engine mounts ect, The front end is removeable as mentioned above so acess is no problem
If it were me I would just find a good long block, fit a new cambelt, water pump ect and swap all the bits off your motor,
Oh and btw they are fwd, they mounted the engine longitudinally
intrade,
Aug 24, 9:03pm
engine parts for these i would try EML near auckland airport. For new parts or direct from germany with seekpart24
whqqsh,
Aug 25, 5:13am
Qualitat have come a long way, I can remember as a tennager with a VW Baja having to walk through the grimey workshop to the 'shop' out the back that was basically their storeroom with a counter to the side. but they sold a lot of stuff you couldnt get anywhere else & charged half what old Ivan Zonich did for regular stuff
kazbanz,
Aug 25, 5:57am
Awoodrow . Have you priced a good s/hengine yet! When you have the head off have a good look at the piston crown of the most affected cylinder before ordering parts. For your sake I hope Im wrong
a.woodrow,
Aug 25, 5:18pm
Yep there are low mileage ones on here for $900, but I'll still strip it down first and see what the damage is. Picked up today and was advised that the car wasn't actually being driven when cambelt failed, they went to start it and it broke then, so damage may even be quite minor.
00quattro00,
Aug 25, 5:22pm
I would say it would have bent valves, have you seen the size of the valves in the 5v heads! They are tiny and would not take much to bend
a.woodrow,
Aug 25, 5:30pm
Yeah, I'm expecting damage, but the optimist in me is going to throw a new belt on and wind it over before I tear it down. No loss i figure as if I do go 2nd hand motor I would just put the new belt onto it for peace of mind
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 25, 9:04pm
If it wasn't for the certification hassle and cost, if it were me I would look into whats involved in dropping a 1.8T in there. It would make a huge difference to the enjoyability of the vehicle and make it a lot more desirable. I have never had to cert a car so I am not sure just how much hassle and cost it would be.
I am assuming that someone would notice on the reg documents at WOF time if you just did the conversion and said nothing, it could trip you up with an insurance claim too.
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 25, 9:08pm
Definitely want to do belt, waterpump and tensioners before putting the front back on the car IMO, regardless of whether you repair or replace. The parts are so well priced and its so quick and easy with the front off you would be crazy not to IMO and then it should be well sorted for some time. Just trying to remember where the thermostat is on those too, its been a while but I seem to remember doing those on the V6 versions while in there makes a lot of sense too.
Our friend Quattro could fill you in on that no doubt, my brain is not really on the ball tonight, busy days do that too me.
a.woodrow,
Aug 25, 9:11pm
I have considered the 1.8 turbo, surely i could sneak it through a WOF, after all most mechanics are knuckle-dragging trolls and wouldn't notice.
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 25, 9:15pm
LMAO @ the knuckle draggers. Well, I guess you could always try and if they knock you back just get it certed. The cert should be easy with it being a factory option, I don't think the brakes are different on the turbo's but again Quattro would know for sure. The trouble with me is its been quite a few years since I did anything major on an A4 of that age group, I mostly play with the FSI stuff now.
a.woodrow,
Aug 25, 9:17pm
yep the b5 is getting a bit long in the tooth, but having said that I think looks-wise they have aged pretty well. it looks like there would be little to no difference pricewise between turbo and non-turbo engines, the cert is of course the sticking point
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 25, 9:18pm
BTW, timing belt kits for this sort of stuff are often worth ordering online. Check the price with Qualitat but if its getting up there I would have thought NZ $200 would come close to getting you everything including the waterpump and the freight.
Just try and stick to a fairly reputable trader, there is a lot of nasty chinese knock off stuff around, aftermarket is not necessarily bad in itself you just want to make sure its quality aftermarket.
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