properly indicate! People indicating to turn right, only to have them then go straight through.
Our roads are busy & this sort of thing just slows the traffic even more & unnecessarily, as you were, vent over !
therafter1,
Sep 18, 10:07am
Because they never should have been issued with a licence in the first place, OR, they are among the many many thousands that are driving in this country on learner licences that they obtained about 10 years (or more) ago !
The ones that annoy me the most are those that are approaching the roundabout (usually with a good head of steam up) with no indicators going whatsoever which indicates that they are going thru the roundabout and they turn left off the roundabout . ignorant inconsiderate mongrels !
therafter1,
Sep 18, 10:15am
It??
fiatracer,
Sep 18, 10:18am
I think there's two sorts of drivers
1/ drivers that care - about driving as a skill, even an artform. These people know which end their driving wheels are at, how ABS works, understand road conditions, don't sit in the fast lane of the motorway blocking people behind them, don't leave foglights on, know how to indicate, stop at stoplights, stop at stop signs, don't drive with park lights on. They still like to have a blast now and again, but have the smarts to go somewhere remote where they won't piss off other road users.
2/ the rest
sifty,
Sep 18, 10:19am
Yep, coppers should park up at a roundabout for a while and take licences of cretins obviously too stupid to drive.
fiatracer,
Sep 18, 10:24am
how about an education campaign! Newspaper ads, TV ads - reinforced with a social media campaign. "Get NZ moving" - drive properly and alleviate congestion, save fuel, etc. Too easy huh!
splinter67,
Sep 18, 10:46am
Great idea be a lot less traffic on the road
timmo1,
Sep 18, 10:48am
Pretty much this.
timmo1,
Sep 18, 10:49am
There is (was!) a large sign near one of the round-abouts here in Tauranga which was placed a little while up the road and read 'Remember to turn off your indicator' (or something to that effect).Seems like putting the cart before the horse to me considering all the people that can't even indicate properly in the first place.
skin1235,
Sep 18, 10:56am
is your life that frenetic that the loss of 2 seconds is a major issue, if the dude approaching on your right is not indicating it means either he is going straight through - or turning left but forgot to indicate, or turning right and forgot to indicate - eitherway the rule is you have to give way to all traffic that will pass across from right to left in front of you all the blah about drivers who should not have a license could be levelled directly back at you - for your careless disregard for others and lack of courtesy, in your haste to be across the roundabout 2 seconds quicker
skin1235,
Sep 18, 11:00am
for the driver approaching and not indicating it is just as frustrating, you've got max revs on barely able to hold it back on the brakes, have the mouth going two hundred percent with a homicidal face spitting at him, all he wants to do is get home safely
splinter67,
Sep 18, 11:05am
Well if he wanted to get home safely he should haveindicated correctly
sifty,
Sep 18, 11:06am
seems we have found our non-indicator.
fiatracer,
Sep 18, 11:19am
and someone who can't comprehend the impact. What if they ARE turning and you pull out in front of them! what if you're a cyclist! what of the ten other cars queued up behind, unable to move because the first car can't go because they can't safely asses WTF the non-indicating person is intending to do! What of all those cars idling, using up gas! Then what about the gridlock further down the road! it is a LOT more than one person saving 2 seconds.
sifty,
Sep 18, 11:25am
Exactly, the flow on effect of inconsiderate driving leads to frustration in others and risks being taken that shouldn't be.
Self-obsessed people who don't care about others are one of the biggest hazards out there.
skin1235,
Sep 18, 11:36am
lol, a few weeks ago you lot were giving me stick for indicating my intention to turn right - so at least the dude in the first incoming slot would know I was aware of him and I intended to pass in front of him the problem you had back then was my intention to exit at the straight ahead exit - which made no sense nor impact on that waiting driver - I was still going to pass infront of him and he still had to wait until I had passed before he could enter the mayhem
WTF is that you want
All others to avoid any intersection you wish or have to cross so you can blast on uninterrupted in ignorance
for the record I do indicate in the proper manner - and idiots who assume that because I have no indicators going as I approach the roundabout is an indication that I intend to turn left so pull out merrily, give me a case of the running sh**ts
it has happened so often I do now consider using the right turn indicator as a means of trying to ensure my safety, even if my intent is to go straight ahead
fiatracer,
Sep 18, 11:43am
sigh.
sifty,
Sep 18, 12:15pm
Seriously.! It saddens me that such people are on the road
sifty,
Sep 18, 12:57pm
bit like teachers who can't spell you reckon.!
pico42,
Sep 18, 1:15pm
Doesn't account for all people, but I suspect a certain number were largely indicating correctly until the "law change". They heard the media reports it had changed and started doing it differently, now being uncertain as to what was correct. However, as we all know, the correct way of indicating was implemented many years before that law change tidied up the governing piece of legislation.
smac,
Sep 18, 1:19pm
What ARE you on about! When is it you indicate right, and why!
skin1235,
Sep 18, 2:06pm
the law says if going more than the first exit after entering, that is the current situation and this what I do - if intending to go straight through I will indicate intent to turn left as I pass the first entry
from other posters above you'll see the frustration they have with people not indicating for this , nor for not indicating intent to turn left before the roundabout ( it blardy difficult to put into words, the sequencing is not clear - which is the first entry!, the one you entered by or the first road on your left as you enter)
that frustration by the first driver on your left is what the whole thread is about, they cannot be expected to know your intent if you indicate incorrectly fine, but then they start assuming your intent because they are not sure, and then enter your path ( your path you do not legally have to indicate because you are travelling straight through)
to me it seems illogical - you should signal your intent to cross their path - giveway rules at roundabouts give you the right of way and there is no need for confusion - you;re either turning left ( indicating) so the next person can proceed safely, or crossing his path (indicting right) so he would know to wait til you are gone, you then indicate left before your exit so letting others further round have the all clear most of which is what the law requires already - except for the straight through traffic - no intent indicated to the first road on your left - that is the only contention in the current law
skin1235,
Sep 18, 2:11pm
it equally saddens me that people are so impatient they assume the lack of indicating MUST mean I'm going to turn left sometime soon so drive out in front of me personally I feel a lot safer at least telling them I'm about to cross their path by indicating right
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