Why are we the only country in the world that requires 6 mthly checks. In the USA & Australia an inspection is only required when selling if my info is correct. Onus is on driver/owner to ensure car is in a safe roadworthy condition & if it's not when pulled over by a cop they get the car impounded or a time limit on remedial work. No mamby pandy stuff that the cops dish out here either. Greg Murphy has gone down in my opinion with the whinging MTA campaign which is all about MTA members losing revenue, nothing else. How ridiculous is it to get a new WOF, sell it 6 weeks later & have get another new one. Time to kick the WOF into touch.
unbeatabull,
Oct 18, 3:47pm
While I agree with this. It requires a lot tougher Policing and consequences for driving an unsafe vehicle. I don't think we have the police force to enforce it, how it is there are far too many unsafe vehicles on the road.
therafter1,
Oct 18, 4:01pm
What part of police training qualifies them to determine various safety aspects (other than the blindingly obvious like flogged tyres) of a vehicle on the side of the road ! . in my experience a number of them are not familiar with the road rules that they are tasked with enforcing, let alone safety related aspects of motor vehicles !
gunhand,
Oct 18, 4:49pm
Geez ya moan about police not doing there "real jobs" now you want them to be car fault enforcers as well. They do it now to a degree anyway. And cars to 99% of people are nothing more than an appliance and treated as such. Most wouldnt have a clue theres a problem underneath somewhere and why should they! Should everyone have to be a mechanic to own a car! by the sounds of some you would think so. Do you know all the ins and outs of the workings of your body and do brain surgery or can you build a house fly a plane etc etc. If you are happy with people running around with faults in there cars so be it. The WOF system will not stop those who dont give a rats driving a wreck but it does stop miss hair dresser driving a car with a fault.
deviant.s,
Oct 18, 4:50pm
I prefer to have safe and up to standard cars on our roads thanks. I'm not speaking for everyone but I bet I am for the majority, new zealanders rely on WOF checks to keep their car maintained, drivers wouldn't check tyres, steering, suspention, rust, lights, seatbelts etc on their own and all cars would deteriorate and cause accidents. Leave it the way it is or similar at least.
franc123,
Oct 18, 6:09pm
Gee you only have to mention the words personal responsibility in this country and it sends most of you into a panic.WOF's aren't and never have been any sort of substitute for maintenance, why people think this is so and that it is some sort of guarantee of not needing to look after anything for another six months is anyones guess. And this is precisely whst the current system encourages. Sure you don't expect the public to have intimate technical knowledge of how motor cars work but you expect them to be able to check tyres and lights, basic checks are part of operating a car. If this can't be done we need to be converting more into pedestrians or public transport users.
therafter1,
Oct 18, 6:21pm
It has already been mentioned in a number of these WOF threads thus far, the government has been trying to educate plebeians to the dangers of drink driving (also a personal responsibility issue) for the last 40 years, and thus far appears to be failing dismally !
gunhand,
Oct 18, 6:21pm
The trouble is we now live in a country that has no personal responsability. Its always someones elses fault it seems. Im pretty sure there will be a large amount of drivers out there who do not even know how to change a flat tyre (let alone find the spare) but we excpect them to take care of other items on there car. Dont get me wrong Im all for people maintaining there cars to a high standerd but they don't won't or don't know how. Maybe the basics should be part of the licence system! Thats why I reckon 6 month check is betterthan nothing or reling on people to it themselves. At least some things will be fixed when faulty. Many can not even stick to the most basic of laws in NZ so I doubt maintaining there car is going to be any sort of priority if they don't have to.
zephyrheaven,
Oct 18, 6:37pm
Come on people, insurance & licensing is the one thing thats killing your wallets & its so easily ignored - a safety check once every 6 months oh boo hoo
I have 8 cars - Im driving one at a time usually, why am I insuring & licensing 8 of them! Some of them do under 1000km a year FFS
This WOF thing may have lit a fuse, but as normal - the Kiwi way means we accept anything these 'leaders' force down our throats
See how much difference you make with your submission - funny they called it that in the review.
therafter1,
Oct 18, 6:41pm
Yep, the MTA and everyone else are wasting their time, the boffins are gunna do what they are gunna do . I will repeat, anyone that thinks for 1 solitary microsecond that the govt is 'reviewing' the present system with the aim of saving the average punter 30 or 40 slides a year is deluding themselves !
rossmax,
Oct 18, 6:56pm
Base the retesting on mileage not time same as an oil change,and if you want to save bucks,get rid of yearly registration. For gods sake 600 bucks every year to drive my diesel ute! I'll accept some ACC, but I pay that personally as well as for all the guys that work for me.then there road user as well as the gst and excise tax, There has to be a fairer system! And while I'm at it how about that passive income of about 30 bucks a month for the privilege of having your gas and electricity supplied to your homes and businesses! What happened to user pays!
zephyrheaven,
Oct 18, 7:09pm
The other bonzer of the licensing system is thus:
Your car's license lapses - bugger, 12 months & 24 hours too late to get to a post office You now open your bum cheeks to 'the pits' a dangerous quicksand of recompliance Where previously your stringent & NZTA accredited WOF issuing man had passed you - he & his ilk are not enough
This law is ridiculous - time does not wary a motorvehicles licenseworthyness - and thats all it is ha ha ha ha ha - they are coming to take me away
paddyman,
Oct 18, 7:12pm
Why don't the government lower the regos cost by $50 or more, considering that most of the cost is ACC levies. That would help a lot to some families.
rossmax,
Oct 18, 7:17pm
Don't remind them of marriage licenses,especially if the gay marriage bill goes thru! Arrrrrrgggghhhh another opportunity for tax!
franc123,
Oct 18, 7:28pm
Given the amount of disconnected odometers in light diesels currently do you think in all honesty that a km based WOF interval would work! Its far too hard to enforce.
sfw4,
Oct 18, 7:49pm
thats only very small percentage driving bombs. the other 99% of us drive legal cars and dont need wof checks. My Car only does 2000kms every 6months because of high petrol costs
casper35,
Oct 18, 7:55pm
Even if they change it to 12 months i am still going to get mine checked every 6 months just for my own peace of mind. Its worth it.
gunhand,
Oct 18, 7:55pm
A 2010 car can be a wreck. And just by looking around id say theres more than just a few driving "bombs"The age of the car has nothin to do with SFA. Ive had a 1988 car few years back that gave me no issues and never failed a warrent in the 2 years I had it, Ive got a 2002 car now and it failed its first warrent, oh and the 88 had twice the kms.
panelvanner,
Oct 18, 8:36pm
Amen.
seryuu,
Oct 18, 8:37pm
Well considering our cars are very old on average for a developed nation, it's a good thing. I read somewhere our fleet is on average 12 years old, and the average person does not care about their cars, it's an appliance. With poor maintenance and little money spent on it, a 12 year old car can be dangerous.
However what's pissing people off are companies (VTNZ) and mechanics trying to rip people off with WOF. WOF should be a safety inspection, not a lie-to-customers-who-don't- -know-much-about-cars-and-earn- -$$$ exercise.
franc123,
Oct 18, 9:32pm
Do I need to insert a further reminder here about who owns VTNZ! They're your good friends the MTA.
franc123,
Oct 18, 9:40pm
Too right, the idea that an older car is somehow automatically more, or potentially more unroadworthy is nonsense. Operators of late model vehicles that are doing high kms are often the worst when it comes to servicing and getting worn tyres, brakepads and dinged up windscreens replaced. An older car is more likely to have suffered from deterioration of rubber boots, bushes and brake parts etc, but thats all, rust isn't even common in 12-20yo cars any more.
aktow,
Oct 18, 11:18pm
in america it differs from state to state,, were i lived there was no wof and no check if you sold a vehicle,, they did bring in a smog testbut you could get around that by registering your vehicle at a friends place in another city who had no smog tests,,wof are a joke any way. i knewmy merc car would fail a wof inspection so i just rang a friends garage and he would write me out a new wof. it went through the computer as being tested so the wof was legal. i did this for 8 years. i never drove fast or acted stupid so the cops never stopped me,,my mum car is checked each 6 months but she is being ripped off. she uses the car once a fortnight and the last wof check her car had only done 50k,,
smac,
Oct 19, 5:58am
Really! How many disconnected light diesel odos are there!
ceebee2,
Oct 19, 11:41am
Here's some interesting reading, copied out of Tuesdays Herald ffom the AA
"As part of the AA's analysis of the changes being proposed, we looked at the data on every fatal crash in New Zealand over five years from 2007 to 2011. The data showed that out of 1640 crashes, there were 89 (or 5.4 per cent) where a vehicle fault or factor was found that may have contributed to the crash."
Of the vehicles in those 89 crashes, 39 per cent did not have a current WOF and 52 per cent had a tyre fault.
Analysis of overall NZ road crashes indicated that vehicle faults contribute to about 2.5 per cent of all fatal and injury crashes and 0.4 per cent where the fault is the sole cause of the crash.
The most common factors contributing to fatal crashes were alcohol or drugs, and a driver losing control and going too fast for the conditions, Mr Stockdale said.
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