Just seen the result of a Bus stopped at Intersection coming out of Paekakariki, It was to long and a goods train came along and took the arse end off of it, looks like only the driver was on the Bus. Bit of a mess to clean up.
Just another dumbarse driver that shouldn't be on the road. The train obviously hit the wrong end.
richardmayes,
Nov 2, 5:32am
I think it's not unreasonable to conclude - as people here are doing - that the bus driver failed to observe this golden rule, and that it is, therefore, his fault.
modie61,
Nov 2, 5:43am
Apparently the buses second axle got caught on the crossing,which i can believe,its as rough as a bears ass,so maybe back off on blaming the driver until the investigation is complete,this might move transit nz into making the changes to the intersection,but i doubt it.
richardmayes,
Nov 2, 5:55am
Maybe. If it's rough enough to entrap a set of bus wheels, you'd have to wonder how thousands of people in little cars manage to get past it every day without getting caught!
mrfxit,
Nov 2, 7:02am
Cough cough
modie61,
Nov 2, 7:17am
I drive over it most days in my car,i have to weave around the rough bits.
falcon15,
Nov 2, 1:14pm
I work less than 20m from that crossing and one of my friends that works for kiwi rail was on the bus. it was not the drivers fault at all. It was a brand new rear twin axle bus that had not been over that crossing before. As it went over the tracks there is a dip that the drive wheels went into and being a twin axle the rear axle held the drive wheels off the ground. The driver couldnt move forward or backwards. Everyone got off the bus and my friend rang train control but it was to late to alert the train driver
hounddog2,
Nov 2, 1:20pm
Just saying the road across from the tracks in the last pic . AWSOME. That is all
smac,
Nov 2, 2:01pm
Sooo.the guys above slagging off at the driver are going to post again! Or no.
rustihammer,
Nov 2, 2:08pm
It is a pig of a crossing.
doggitt,
Nov 2, 2:10pm
"the bottom of the bus had become stuck on the rail tracks and the driver had got the passengers off the bus before the train hit the bus."
doggitt,
Nov 2, 2:10pm
whoops didn't see falcons post before I posted
richardmayes,
Nov 2, 2:12pm
I have been known to be wrong about things from time to time.
It still sounds pretty bloody queer to me. "the bottom of the bus had become stuck on the rail tracks"
Will wait for the police report thanks.
unclejake,
Nov 2, 2:15pm
You would rather someone was killed!
What a twit.
unclejake,
Nov 2, 2:18pm
Well, the published accounts from witnesses and the Police suggest otherwise.
Internet heros crying out for blood are getting boring
c.knox,
Nov 2, 3:20pm
On most buses, the rear-most axle isn't driven. With open diffs (no lockers or limited slip) you can get stuck if one side of the driven axle falls into a hole. Not enough weight on it, so no traction. The driver was probably moving slowly over the crossing so wouldn't have had enough momentum. This is my guess at the cause. Good on the driver for realising it was stuck, and getting every one off.
philltauranga,
Nov 2, 3:31pm
What a thing to say, you have obviously never driven a lazy axle truck or bus before if you had you would know how easy it is to bridge the drive axle and come to a stop, especially if it was bellyed on the rails. If you had any idea what you were dribbling about then you wouldnt have posted such an offencive comment. Good on the driver for getting everyone off the bus intime. The lowloader transporter I drive has a low chassis on the trailer and scrapes on some crossings where the road rises up to the rails, almost been stuck a few times but kept the power on and managed to get over. This is KIWI RAIL and ROADING fault NOT THE DRIVERS they need to sort this sh1t out and fix these faulty crossings. Look at pic 2 & 3 see the dip in the road, all the weight went on rear axle lifting weight from drive axle SORT THIS SHIT OUT KIWI RAIL there should be no dip there.
kazbanz,
Nov 2, 4:03pm
Hey guys I'm not going to critique the bus driver when I have no clue about the specifics of duel axle busses. But looking at the pictures of the scene I gotta say it looks fairly flat to me. Ie hardly the sort of senario to disturb the workings of a heavy vehicle. To me this begs a question of the desighn not of the crossing but of the vehicle if it can get stuck so easilly.
philltauranga,
Nov 2, 4:21pm
You raise a very good point, I fcukn hate lazy axles and personally think they shouldnt be allowed, as they very often get stuck on driveway entrys as you go through the kerb dip from drive to road, trying to push heavy vehicles weight with no weight being transfered to the drive axle and the wheels just sit there spinning hopelessly, they are a bad desighn. But I still think a level crossing should be LEVEL. if you look carefully at pic 3 you will see the bus is also going up a slight rise to the intersection which amplified the problem, pic 2 shows the rear axle bottomed out with the rear of the bus looks bellied out and the drive axle is hanging virtually in the air in a slight dip, as you can see from the distance between the tire and wheel arches. Pic 3, to me clearly shows a dip in the road below the drive axle, and that dip is all it would take, with the bus going up a slight rise , to lift the weight off the drive axle and leave the wheels spinning hopelessly. They just said on the CH1 news at 6.33 pm about the slight dip and several buses have had trouble there over the years.
aredwood,
Nov 2, 4:44pm
"The bus had been replacing a train service when the crash happened."
How ironic.
rsr72,
Nov 2, 5:05pm
Obviously badly maintained roading over the crossing, and fault comes back onto the rail company.
modie61,
Nov 2, 5:42pm
rumour round town is that i was a brand new bus and had air bag suspension,what caused the big gash in the timber gap filler, berg !
net_oz,
Nov 2, 6:14pm
It is still the drivers fault as he was in charge of the bus. Obviously hasn't got the knowledge to know how to drive the vehicle correctly.
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