My partner has a red Toyota Vitz, and the paintwork is in good condition apart from a couple of little spots on the hatch where the clear coat is starting to lift. Any tips to prevent this spreading!
beast9,
Nov 21, 6:46am
red is a hard color to uv stabilize the only way to sort this is get a painter to repair the damage and then polish the car with a decent polish every month but dont use a extra cut polish
kazbanz,
Nov 21, 6:50am
you would do no further damage if you got 2000 grit sandpaper used it very wet and sanded the damaged areas back -it WILL roll back further than you expected but theres a good chance you will feather the edges back so they arent sharp. Once you have done that then use cutting polish followed by polish to restore the gloss to almost how it was. Don't be suprised if it apears to make matters worse. Its a gamble but as I said you aren't making the job harder for a painter to fix it propperly later
intrade,
Nov 21, 6:58am
dont use silicone type polish if you wish to have it repaired in the next 2 years. silicone is a painters nightmare. and cheap ones have silicone inn the polish
curlcrown,
Nov 21, 7:01am
The rear hatch is very small so it would be fairly cheap to get it painted.
Silicone is just something painters moan about when thry are in a bad mood. If it is prepaired properl it is not a problem, and a painter told me that. Almost all cars would have traces of silicone on them.
rob_man,
Nov 21, 9:47am
It's people like you who cost us thousands, a freshly slimed up silicone bomb in the workshop is kind of like a melting nuclear power plant that just keeps on giving. It only takes molecules of that stuff to create fisheyes and believe me, it gets everywhere.
les37,
Nov 21, 9:51am
its a painters nigntmare,you obviously have no idea.
curlcrown,
Nov 21, 10:14am
My painter never moans at the thousands of dollars worth of work I give him despite some of the cars being covered in silicone.
curlcrown,
Nov 21, 10:16am
All vocations have aspects that are bothersome. Its part and parcel of anything.
attitudedesignz,
Nov 21, 10:48am
Exactly.
There ya are curlcrown, 2 painters with actual real world experience as opposed to you "knowing" the truth because someone told you so.
mrfxit,
Nov 21, 12:34pm
Could that be part of why you get charged thousands
grangies,
Nov 21, 12:44pm
If have a car come in that is covered in silicone. The first thing I do is wash the living crap out of it with PPG Bodykleen, and that seems to strip it off real good.
3M Boat wash is pretty good too.
kazbanz,
Nov 21, 1:15pm
I give various painters thousands of dollars of work but if a cars being painted I try really hard not to make their job more difficult by spraying silicone everywhere.
rob_man,
Nov 21, 1:17pm
Tergasol is the best thing I've found, if you put it in an engine wash gun and de-tox the whole vehicle including wheel wells, door jambs and engine bay before hosing off liberally with a fire hose and then deal to all the interior bits that will contaminate your clothing and hands with prepsol you have half a chance of getting on with earning a living. I have on occasion added a de-tox charge for this.
trogedon,
Nov 21, 1:36pm
Yeah, it is a pita and people have a right to bemoan it. That's life, that's being happy about what there is and not being happy about things that are crap.
curlcrown,
Nov 21, 1:39pm
I avoid it where possible too but some cars have silicone on them when we get them.
splinter67,
Nov 21, 1:40pm
Can you still buy prepsol that gets rid of any polish
trogedon,
Nov 21, 1:42pm
Yes or similar thing from different makers.
splinter67,
Nov 21, 1:44pm
I think these painters need to harden up
johnf_456,
Nov 21, 2:33pm
They do, all jobs have parts you hate
splinter67,
Nov 21, 2:46pm
Yup they sure do or things that make it harderyou just have to work around them
neville48,
Nov 21, 5:07pm
But its the silicon that provides the UV protection so if you want protection, use polishes with maximum silicon and that goes especially for gel-coats on boats. Painters will just have to accept it is part of the job and use products developed to remove it properly and pass the costs on accordingly.
rob_man,
Nov 21, 5:15pm
Actually, the whole silicone discussion thing got a bit off track there. Polishes are OK, it's the liquid silicone products like armourall that cause the problems.
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