Help! About to spit the dummy

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unbeatabull, Nov 23, 2:33pm
Basically yes, but instead of air, you're pushing fluid through.

Loosen bleed nipple on slave, and then using a syringe or something that will seal around it push fluid through it and back up the line. Doesn't take much, maybe 100mL of fluid, but it does the trick.

Have had to do it on quite a lot of modern stuff with Hydraulic release bearings where they get an air pocket in them and simply bleeding through the nipple doesn't get it as the fluid comes out of the nipple before it gets to the air pocket. Long shot in this case I know, but still a suggestion that only takes 2 mins.

quater, Nov 23, 4:29pm
Yeah mate long time no see. Thats how its set at the moment.

quater, Nov 23, 4:34pm
Hiya mate, Not sure how the longer release bearing or the pivot will help. Unless you are suggesting that the bearing isn't sitting flat aganst the pressure plate ( which could be possible ) Otherwise I don't think it will help as I have all the reach with the folk I need, just the slave isn't pushing all the way. cheers

intrade, Nov 23, 4:35pm
and is it working ok now. otherise you got to do the same on the slave making sure its got no slack space . some are non adjustable means you got to make or find a longer rod or extend it what ever needs doing to take possibile to mutch free play out.

quater, Nov 23, 4:38pm
I did try that, But ended up having to rebleed the normal way to get the peddle back to how it was, Guess its the matter having the right tools for the job.

quater, Nov 23, 4:40pm
yeah done, got 2mm slack. and no not working ok.

quater, Nov 23, 4:42pm
yup sure did.

smac, Nov 23, 5:16pm
As above, if you pump and get pressure, you have air. Doesn't matter WHAT sized cylinders you have.

Sort that first (really do recommend some kind of pressure bleed), THEN worry about cylinder sizes, push rod length yadda yadda

intrade, Nov 23, 5:33pm
yup thats correct .

snoopy221, Nov 23, 5:49pm
gadgit knows his stuff qauter
Leverage and angles make a diferrence to movement.
And he could probably give ya a toyota part number for a diferrent bore size slave or master if ya ask him nicely.

NZTools, Nov 23, 5:58pm
If the slave cylinder is too big, it will hardly move when you push the clutch pedal down.
Halve the diametre of the slave cylinder, and it will move twice as far.

smac, Nov 23, 6:17pm
I know this.

intrade, Nov 23, 6:18pm
nice cyder in chromwell

quater, Nov 23, 6:28pm
Well I have been trying over 2 months 4 different ways only ever getting a certain amount of pressure, I can get a little more if I just pump the top slack of the peddle but as soon as I release the peddle its back to normal, I don't lose any pressure over night.

quater, Nov 23, 6:30pm
to be honest I'm not a fan of cyder. So its all yours.

intrade, Nov 23, 6:38pm
you want to inspect the lines from top to bottom for potentail leaks . also could it be a problem inside somehow on truster bearing!
like is the master clutch cilinder with all new seals!
seals dont cost mutch to replace Its hard for me and most others on here to know and try to help you.
I usually figure problems like this out in bed over night lol
and yea thanks i have all the apple cyder .

gadgit3, Nov 23, 7:32pm
Quarter. Just a quick check, when at rest how far can you push the slave cylinder push rod with your finger! The lenght of the release bearing, pivot and push rod all affect how much throw you are going to get. At rest if your slave is all ready 10mm out then you have 10mm less throw and plenty of free play.

quater, Nov 23, 7:37pm
Yeah what I was trying to say further up is that I now have the slave right back (I can only push it back 2mm) the release bearing is touching the pressure plate. The fork can still pivot a good 30 - 40mm and I only get 15mm of travel from slave. So free play from all components is 2mm

intrade, Nov 23, 7:42pm
have somone push the pedal while your under the car only 1 cm and then look when they tell you how mutch it moved and have em keep it at 1cm prssed then go to 2 cm and have em stop again for a while. and you wotch if it retracts while they keep the foot in position.

incar., Nov 23, 8:03pm
havent read all th e quotes but have you check the pedal box for hair line cracks! if all good pump then clamp the slave cylinder hose and press and hold the clutchpedal see if your loosing pressure

quater, Nov 24, 7:53am
Ok test done, Set the slave so its engaging the clutch 5mm all the time. clutch peddle feels great good consistant pressure and ever better the truck now changes the gears like it should. So am I ringht in thinking its just needs more push. cheers

patiki1, Nov 24, 11:11am
Is your braided clutch line diameter large enough.
Do you need to resleeve your master cylinder to a bigger bore!

supernova2, Nov 24, 11:27am
1. You dont want constant pressure on the clutch fork - that will stuff the relaese bearing at the least.
2. Have you got a return spring on the clutch fork at the slave!
3. 2mm might be a bit too much clearance.Although it sounds about right you might be able to get away with less.A 1950's book i have says set up the pushrod with a rattling clearance.I take that to mean "just" and no more.

trademerob, Nov 25, 2:42pm
This is what happens when you re-power with an engine that should not be in it. Only the first of many problems i expect. And what about the cert. uummm err.

quater, Nov 25, 3:18pm
Since its almost ready for cert, I have over come most of the problems. Went for my first 4x4 rampage in it yesterday. Best thing I have ever done, Grinning from ear to ear. Reminds me of being at stockcars hearing the roar. I'm happy.