Roading, Biggest scam in NZ?

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theram1, Dec 3, 4:24am
Roads, sewage system, what is the connection besides both been crap in some places.

trader_84, Dec 3, 6:20am
What he said . rigid pavement.

chevcamaro, Dec 3, 8:51am
santa did it

truckr, Dec 3, 9:31am
well roading contractors have been cutting each others throats each time a maintainance contract comes out for tender for decades , councils and nzta usually go for the lowest price, quality doesnt count for anything anymore most contracts dont pay for potholes to be fixed and a pothole doesnt appear on the road for no reason there is a fault in the road and the pothole would be filled untill the council/nzta engineer approve it to be repaired.

richynuts, Dec 3, 10:18am
Nah biggest scam in nz is EQC then ACC.roading is way down the list.

clanky, Dec 3, 10:20am
Picky, pico. Just quoting Elect70. MacAdam was a Scotsman, macadam is the normal term for asphalt, at least where I came from.

wiz9, Dec 3, 9:00pm
Same in Auckland. Slippery as ice trying to stop for the red light in the wet though.

russell, Dec 4, 3:45am
Judging from what I see on the Wellington Motorway The FH company is out there day and night.This situation has only developed over the last decade.
Seems to me there has to be kick-backs involved.Four trucks to support a bloody mower when they just used to put out a sign "mower in operation"
Love to know what THAT company earns from the taxpayer.

splinter67, Dec 4, 3:50am
The four trucks will be an osh requirement because they have to treat everyone as thick otherwise some clown will drive into it and complain because they didnt see it

kyussr32, Dec 4, 4:11am
It will be a requirement for working in a 100kmh zone.

See a car doing 100kmh hit a mower doing 10kmh, what will that cost the families.

russell, Dec 4, 10:29am
For 40 years or so, I dont remember any cars hitting a mower,
Perhaps we were all better drivers then and just managed to stay on the road to avoid the mower on the grass.

kyussr32, Dec 4, 6:19pm
You obviously live in a very quiet part of the country (better than 39 mowers eh):

Recent crash events involving truck-mounted attenuators (TMAs) in New Zealand have prompted an industry-wide study into driver perception of, and reaction to, attenuator vehicles operating in work zones. As an indication of the size and extent of the problem, three of the major contractors have reported 39 hits on TMAs between them in the last 5 years alone. Although most vehicle occupants walked away uninjured, four fatalities have occurred. The research focused on mobile closures, the primary contributor to the above statistics, and consisted of two consecutive studies. The first study, reported in this paper, recorded and analysed driver reaction to a range of visual enhancement systems (VES) mounted on attenuator vehicles in a live operating environment during day and night.

trader_84, Dec 4, 7:00pm
There must come a point in time when all that can be reasonably expected to be done ??

splinter67, Dec 4, 7:07pm
Youve got my vote as long as your going to put in more dragstrips, speedways and race tracks

supernova2, Dec 4, 7:35pm
Has anyone noticed that back in the 70's in the days of the MOW there were road gangs out and about everywhere, constantly patching, clearing drains, chopping scrub etc etc,Whilst there was a lot of shovel leaning going on I feel that in general the roads were much better looked after.Kept lots of people in jobs and no big profit margins for private eneterprise.I say bring back that system.We will get more bang for our buck than we ever will with private enterprise.

splinter67, Dec 4, 7:39pm
Yes and the rail unemployment was down as well but your talking sense you know thats not allowed on here

poppajn, Dec 4, 8:29pm
, About 20 years ago a truck hit a mower on the roadside on the outskirts of Invercargill, killing the operator. This was before the days of them haveing a warning vechicle.

truckr, Dec 4, 9:07pm
yeah tha does seem silly but that is a requirement under osh and coptum as it's classed as a mobile operation, nz motorists are extremely thick and impatient we all see idiots doing dumb shit on the roads but you have no idea of theextent of their thickness until you spend all day working on the roads i remember when i worked for fh and they had a attenuator on the motorway at night with flashing lights and arrowboard going and a old couple comming home from church drove straight into the back of it killing them both, very sad but makes you wonder what they were looking at and how they could not see a truck lit up like a christmas tree

splinter67, Dec 4, 9:21pm
Yup when we lived in wellington we cleaned the terrace tunnel as a perk for a club I belonged to the number opf idiots that drove past us at 100ks was amazing a cop sat at the other end of the tunnel one night he gave 20 tickets in a 2 hour period he could have given more but didnt have time what was more amazing where the complete tosspots that drove between the cones and drove in the lane we where working on they now close the tunnel completely to clean it

jones.famz, Dec 5, 9:21am
do you understand the theory behind cement stabilisation!

bashfulbro, Dec 6, 5:14am
Te Irirangi Drive in Manukau, has a grass centre strip, almost along the entire length, every time the grass gets mown, (probably once a week) !, it`s quite laughable, there is a mower, followed by 3 warning trucks,with flashing lights , arrows etc,And, the mower is on the grass, not the road. I was told those trucks cost around $400 per hour each, so that`s $1200 per hour ,plus the mower,so it must be hugely expensive, but hey, who cares.it`s ratepayer`s money.

gunhand, Dec 6, 5:21am
Interesting you mention that. I done a stint for them and can tell you we traveled half a day to do a pot hole in a road, but never went back to do it agian.