Dog and Lemon is a lemon!

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chook90, Mar 3, 7:03pm
I recall reading this godforsaken abortion of literary humour some years ago and spotting something about Honda Accords - the old pre pop-up headlight things. They were supposedly unreliable, prone to rusting and had few if any redeeming features. They actually rated little better than a Lada.

Now let's be clear here, I wouldn't buy one BUT I happened to ride in and drive one of these particular Hondas on the weekend. It had done a mere 487,000km so was "well run in". But it went well, the electrics functioned as they should, the gearbox was still smooth and it had neither rust nor previous repairs of rust. In short it seems to suggest that the drongos who have the audacity to "sell" their unqualified, biased and misguided opinions should offer the merchandise for sale in the fiction section of the bookstore.

dunedin_moto, Mar 4, 6:30am
No. No it wasn't.

julian.walls, Mar 4, 7:24am
You guys should see my review of it in 2010 I won t post a link - Trade me frowns on that sort of thing just google car mag reviews

cheers

3tomany, Mar 4, 7:38am
no1 for forced recalls

doug207, Mar 4, 10:58am
It seems that the reliable Toyotas from the late 80's and early 90's are all rusting away. My little '91 had heinous amounts of rust in it. Our '96 is quietly rusting through the A-pillars.
It also seems that the only genuinely reliable Toyotas are the incredibly disgusting ones to drive. Our wagon is nearing 500km, but it's a shocking pile of shite on a good day, gutless, crap brakes, crap steering, crap handling. Still, only thing that has broken was a plastic topped radiator.

intrade, Mar 4, 11:08am
yup rust is getting the better of most now and the 2000 onwards where not as reliable when they are abused they poo them selfs with expensive repairs like chainproblems on vvti when owners neglect its oil changesdont even mention the D4 crap.

tgray, Mar 4, 3:11pm
If a customer comes over clutching one of these, I know before they do whether they will buy my car or not.

bookeeper, Apr 1, 6:13am
Has anybody got any old copies of D&L! think they started out in 1995ended in 2010 didnt they!.
Im out in oz (perth) not sure if this forum format you can send/receive personal messages!

whqqsh, Apr 1, 7:35am
weve got an old one floating around work, best use so far has been propping up the computer monitor

nzemale, Apr 1, 8:56am
The thing is, the writer of Dog n Lemon has never driven all of the cars he writes about, or even owned, to know off all the issues he claims happens to the vehicles - just listened to a bit of 'heresay' from disgruntled owners that got one of the bum cars or they mistreated it in the first place.

Sure, in every car model there will be 'a few bum' cars, but when you make say 500,000 of them half a dozen doesnt make them a bad car.
Also these motoring writers know very little about design or mechanics related to vehicles. I doubt even Clarkson knows where the dipstick is or what its used for, and would know even less about, say piston speed or antisquat.

sqawks, Apr 1, 12:56pm
If you've ever read any of his books it quickly becomes apparent that Clarkson does not know nearly as much about many things as he thinks he does. I can think of at least one of his that has a factual error on every page.

doug207, Apr 1, 1:05pm
No sorry, I generally burn them. The utter BS in them goes up like mad!

socram, Apr 1, 1:54pm
The only book in good condition I have ever thrown away instead of either selling or taking to the charity shop.

#30 has it. The utes go on for ever but would I ever want one!I had four Toyota's as company cars from 1983 to 1987. Three were used (1 1979 Starlet with just 18,000k on the clock, 3 Corollas), all replaced by the company at 85,000kms.The last one was brand new and according to Car Jam when it was totally free, all have been scrapped bar the last one.

bookeeper, Apr 1, 6:42pm
Yea theyre as thick as phone books eh, Wonderin'. would you list it on here (preferably ebay cos im not yet trade me authenticated. what yr is it and how much you might be askin'! and for postage to Perth W.A!