I bought a used car online from a trusted dealer, advertised as 2014 when it arrived it was a 2013 model, clearly stated on all paperwork,do I have any comeback?
toyboy3,
Jul 5, 10:11am
Year first registered ?
bwg11,
Jul 5, 10:14am
When was it first registered? Obviously a car sold in January 2014 will have been manufactured mid 2013. This is the reason for the trend to MY (model year) advertising.
brapbrap8,
Jul 5, 10:31am
What year does it say on the licence?
sharchew,
Jul 5, 10:43am
Never trust these dealers they are like polititions
tgray,
Jul 5, 1:32pm
The year of manufacture is no longer necessarily the year that ends up on your REGO sticker. That will be the year the car was first registered 'anywhere in the world', (see the Consumer Affairs website). Having said that, I recently imported a 2014 Corvette that was first registered in the USA in January of this year. I supplied all the documentation which proved this and yet they still registered it as a 2014 car, in contradiction of the law. Luckily my customer didn't mind, but it absolutely should have been registered as 2015. It all in black and white on the website and on the back of every Consumer Information Notice that dealers issue with every sale.
lookoutas,
Jul 5, 1:38pm
You were scum-suckered there tg.
It would have been a 2015 model, unless it was built before Sept. Is that when GM change models?
tgray,
Jul 5, 4:22pm
What has Sept got to do with it? Nothing to do with when GM changed models. It was first registered in 2015 and that is what it should have been registered as, as per NZ law.
supernova2,
Jul 5, 4:50pm
So did you question the mistake or just accept it?
supernova2,
Jul 5, 4:53pm
Possibly as it would appear that the goods supplied are not as described. The difficulty might be in establishing just what you have lost by the year being different to what you expected.
tgray,
Jul 5, 5:25pm
As per previous post, my customer was not bothered, so let it go.
tub4,
Jul 5, 6:45pm
One of my bikes belonged to Paul Radish, he got it in 2005 & he sold it to me in 2008 with 4km on the clock, never registered. It's registered as a 2008 SE Fatboy
yellowsubmarine,
Jul 5, 9:39pm
I can beat that, I know of a 1985 Scania registered as a 2010.
lookoutas,
Jul 6, 7:24am
You being a dealer should know that.
But what do I know, when I only know about how Ford's work. For those that need it explained. Ford change/start assembling their next years models in Sept - this gives the dealers a chance to sell all the previous models before the end of the year, hence there hopefully should be no 2014 models left when the new year clocks over.
Now - if a car is assembled in August 2014, but doesn't happen to get sold until Jan 2015. It is still the shape and specs of a 2014, and will be registered as a 2014 even though the date will be 2015.
If anyone is dumb enough to think a 2014 Mustang is the same, or looks the same as a 2015, then you are beyond help.
The only time this rule didn't apply was in 1964, when the 1965 Mustang started assembly in Oct. But - there is no such thing as a VIN with 64 on it. All Mustangs from the beginning were VIN'd as 65, even though assembly began in March 64
tgray,
Jul 6, 8:28am
That was the rule prior to Jan 2007. Not now.
tgray,
Jul 6, 8:37am
Quote " For motor vehicles registered before 1 January 2007 'vehicle year' means the year of manufacture or the model year or the year of first registration. For motor vehicles registered after 1 January 2007, 'vehicle year' means the year of first registration anywhere in the world" unquote.
pandai,
Jul 6, 9:42am
I got a car in Sept 2009, which was registered as 2009, but the build date on the plate in the engine bay was clearly early 2008.
franc123,
Jul 6, 9:55am
Its not uncommon for the gap between its manufacture overseas and its registration here to be up to 18 months wide, as long as you are aware it is last years model and its priced accordingly if the new model is already on the market then where is the issue? Its still new and unused, if it doesn't have the features you want then wait for the updated one and pay more for it.
lookoutas,
Jul 6, 1:05pm
If that's the case, then you and your customer were ripped-off. From 2007 onwards is a bit too new for me. But more importantly, and in retrospect of this thread - so was OP
poppy62,
Jul 6, 1:50pm
Guys, lots of debate about build date and 1st Reg, being deemed as the correct year of the vehicle. Sadly it is and always has been a known fact from 70s on (for Wreckers) that the date stamps on the various plastic items and ancillaries are more accurate as to the age of the vehicle. many times I'd have a punter roll up to my yard wanting a part for his "X" year car. The item I'd bring out was possibly different and a debate would ensue, until I frog marched him /her out to their car, pulled the ashtray out flipped it over and lo and behold the date stamp is pre "X" date. also shows up on seatbelt tags and most other moulded items. Considering that most pre-tensioned seatbelts have a 10 year life span it would be imperative for the Car Maker to fit the right year belts etc., from the off, to avoid repercussions with disgruntled customers down the track being short changed. I too have been caught out ( in the past) thinking that a vehicle was 2 years younger than it really was. Only to find out by said I.D. tags and Chassis numbers it was actually older although accompanying paper work said otherwise.
vtecintegra,
Jul 6, 3:33pm
I don't see how the date on an ashtray proves anything - they probably do large runs of plastic stuff like that which could be well before the actual car was assembled.
tgray,
Jul 6, 3:50pm
OP, please tell us what the REG sticker says. If it says 2013, then he has deceived you. If it says 2014 and it was first registered in 2014, then that is how the law is applied in NZ since 2007 (as per post 18).
lookoutas,
Jul 6, 4:00pm
Point taken, but it would be a good way to do a quick check without dismantling anything.
poppy62,
Jul 6, 8:49pm
Actually it gives the month as well as the year. It also serves as an identification component for lawful purposes. You'll find that manufacturers are aware of monthly numbers of components required and thus the dates are changed accordingly. I have had many same cars of the same year but with different months stamped on the various components and they tallied up to build dates. Yes, they do change monthly even on ashtrays. Useless info maybe, but I've found it useful when debating prices for Stock,that has been flagged incorrectly.
kraftygran,
Jul 7, 6:54am
the makers improve features etc every year,i,m very disappointed that I expected a car with 2014 features. only to receive a 2013 model with dated features,thanks to all who responded!
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