So you see my point and the agony. :) it's not fun.
lazzo,
May 21, 6:46pm
It's hypothetical mate, don't take it as fact. ;)
I really could care less if Joe Random down the road knows my position, it's Joe's issue if he feels the figures involved in the buying process are too confidential to share. I'm not terribly uptight with such things.
mm12345,
May 21, 7:14pm
I don't take anything much on forums as "fact" - but in this case you've made a hell of a fuss justifying a decision you've made, then defending it against an attack - which never came.
tamarillo,
May 21, 7:30pm
Oh go on, it hurts, but by heck it's fun! Exquisite agony. Just do it, it's the 400 that's got the balls.
lazzo,
May 21, 7:38pm
Yes I'm coming to the idea the R400 is worth the wait, but if Volkswagen turn around and say it's not going to be seen in showrooms for a lengthy time to come then it'll be the RS3. Do you think they'll leave it long? I hope not. Volkswagen are keeping veeeeery quiet on this car.
youngones2,
May 21, 7:41pm
i think i would rather have a 2nd hand 911 say 3 yrs old than a new trumped up golf. dont get me wrong i am toying with spending the same amount of money as you and have similar income. but to me a 300k car depreciated to under 100k makes better buying sense than a 100k golf and quite frankly probably goes harder to. if u afford a bit more is a new or near new gtr worth a look as performance would be unreal. just my 2c
sw20,
May 21, 7:49pm
Where did this utter pile of jealous ridden drivel come from? Are you a failed school teacher or something?
mm12345,
May 21, 8:00pm
Pick one point I made there, and argue it rationally, or stick it where the sun don't shine. Are you a school boy or something?
sw20,
May 21, 8:03pm
You implied, simply by writing out drivel, that the OP was some kind of hoon or poser simply because he wanted a nice car.
lazzo,
May 21, 8:06pm
Different Folks, Different Strokes.
I'm not looking for alternatives. Unlike the RS3 the R400 is very unlikely to push six figures, I imagine it will certainly come in well under the RS3 in terms of retail price.
The high performance versions of common everyday cars is something which appeals to me, my budget has never taken me to exotic cars and unlikely to in the near future, so I'm not very interested in picking myself up a flogged out, used and abused Porsche.
I've never purchased a car because it has great resale value, I feel if that's what influences your buying decisions then you're buying the car for all the wrong reasons, I buy a car because that's what appeals to me, is going to make me feel good and serve me well over the time I'm going to own it and when it comes to sell I simply get as much as I can for it and move on.
I own cars that make me look back at them as I walk away from it after I've parked it. That speaks volumes for the car I've purchased.
mm12345,
May 21, 8:11pm
It's not "drivel" - you can't dispute even one point I made - as you can't, So simmer down - you're the one investing emotional capital into an argument you will not win.
seadubya,
May 21, 8:20pm
"there's no doubt that most buyers also consider that snob value, wall-p1ssing, perceived pen1s-extension benefit are very important factor in the purchase decision." = drivel, unless you can provide statistical evidence to back up your "no doubt/very important"
lazzo,
May 21, 8:20pm
I think there's a rotten old Hilux somewhere calling your name.
sw20,
May 21, 8:33pm
This is sanctimonious drivel.
You took it upon yourself to give OP a lecture on how to behave in his new 400hp car. I can hazard a guess just by the fact the OP is actually looking to purchase one of these vehicles, and his command of written English, he doesn't need such wee lectures as he clearly has moved through life with some success.
mm12345,
May 21, 8:44pm
If you have a problem with that, then seek help.
As for "statistics" - then what on? You don't need to have even studied marketing or psychology 101 to understand how performance cars/bikes/boats or any other similar toys have been marketed for the past 100 years. You'd need to be a complete moron to miss the blindingly obvious.
It's a basic inarguable fact - so get over it.
seadubya,
May 21, 9:00pm
So I am a liar who needs help? Get a grip, or a mirror. I see nothing but drivel written with the intent to insult, this is a motoring forum so get down off your high horse and start making sense, your arguments are hollow and self serving. Reply if you wish, I have no desire to be drawn into an argument with someone so one eyed and sanctimonious, especially since your facts are "inarguable", proving beyond a doubt that you are only interested in lecturing.
mm12345,
May 21, 9:02pm
As you say - you're "hazarding a guess", then decide that what I said was "sanctimonious" because you trust your guess?
My guess is that he's a young fella. Could be wrong, and I won't call you names for assuming that's he's "enough of a man" to handle "400hp", but most grown men I know don't need to repeatedly justify themselves in some internet forum if they want to buy some car - they just do it.
ETA - for the record. My post followed Intrade's comment:
"my question is where are you going to drive it when 101kph is already speeding in this moron country? You would want to live in germany with a car like this."
Intrade is of course correct - as painful as that may be to many (road) car enthusiasts in this country.
mm12345,
May 21, 9:05pm
I didn't call you a "liar" - just dishonest / disingenuous for quoting me out of context - which is the absolute truth of the matter.
lazzo,
May 22, 12:48am
As a matter of interest, your "young fella" claim is very subjective, I feel such a statement is calling into question my integrity, I do not for one moment need to justify my position to anyone here and find it somewhat interesting you choose to broadcast your feelings relating to my character. In the absence of any tangible evidence otherwise, your claims should be, and will be, considered hollow.
butterfly05,
May 22, 4:52pm
Well he pretty much admitted he is a poser. Goes and buys a car with over 300kw to puddle down the road at the prescribed limit. Yeah right.
And looking at the other bent out of shape comments in here it must of really struck a cord.
clark20,
May 22, 6:19pm
Buy yourself a RS5 (450hp) while you wait, you might end up liking the bigger car
meow_mix,
May 22, 7:09pm
It must be very, very hard, having to decide which brand new German ubercar you will be driving in the coming months, while all us lesser beings stick to driving our old Jap imports.
So three brand new VAG supercars over about six months or so, are you for real? Bit of a harsh one if you have to stick with the current Golf R for a few more months, and how much are you going to sell it for?
I have owned my current car for nearly 16 years and I'm still happy with it, I will still be driving it when you finally get your RS3 and Golf R400.
If you want to create some happyness from your cash $$$ then maybe give a little to charity.
You won't get great answers on this forum which is filled with kids, rednecks and old school V8 heads. Most of us can't really imagine what it's like to buy yet another brand new supercar.
tamarillo,
May 22, 8:53pm
Speak for your small minded self and don't include rest of us. What a shity attitude you have, wish you'd take it elsewhere though.
tamarillo,
May 22, 8:56pm
What we need here is an uninvite feature to get rid of the petty nonsense and let you discuss your love of cars. Jeez. r400 blue with black wheels.
lazzo,
Jan 18, 7:45pm
Outside of budget.
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