Years ago my Dad a mechanic was looking at a used car at the local GM dealer. One of his younger brothers was a salesman there. Anyway after starting the vehicle my father announced that it had a clappy tappet. His brother promptly replied but a clappy tappet is a happy tappet. Needless to say Dad told him he was full of it and didn't buy the car. His brother was affectionately known by other staff members as L***** the liar lol. The youngest sister in the family (10 in total) wouldn't buy anything off him either and told their mother the same.
kazbanz,
Sep 1, 6:52am
nahh I don't wanna. Sorry dude being serious. I know darn well Im competing directly with people like that. That and Guys who wouldn't know what end of a screwdriver to use to tighten a wheelnut. One tip I give to anyone talking to a salesman. Look at his hands. I don't trust a salesman with perfect fingernails and immaculately clean hands. The guy with a bit of dirt I bet has a clue or two under the bonnet.
tgray,
Sep 1, 6:56am
Oh shit, if only I didn't wash my hands on Friday after doing that oil change, they just might have bought it.
joanie04,
Sep 1, 6:52pm
I didn't know you used a screwdriver to tighten a wheel nut lol. Learn something new every day. I've heard of know all kids being send out for buckets of volts and long weights (waits) and still none the wiser after the event.
franc123,
Sep 1, 7:23pm
The serious answer is that yes that method is indeed possible, but not necessarily advisable and its doubtful that a service provider would be prepared to guarantee such a repair, its a practice that simply isn't endorsed by manufacturers and not by engine reconditioners either. The preference is to be able to examine ALL the parts associated with the chain and make an informed decision from there as to what exactly needs replacing, as I said earlier in the absence of a reasonably priced complete kit for a particular engine the cost of individual genuine parts if nothing else is available can be eyewateringly high, its possible for individual guides to be $80-150ea, and similar for crank and jackshaft sprockets and the tensioners too. Increasingly chain drive engines do not have external tensioners and are instead behind the front cover, thus the chains cannot be removed without complete removal of the chain cover, so a split chain replacement method simply isn't possible.
bumfacingdown,
Sep 2, 4:45am
Fair call kaz, I have heard some utter BS from car salesmen, all with a straight face delivery. Funnily enough a stand alone who has been in business a while is less likely to try it on than a "brand" yard
kazbanz,
Sep 2, 6:13am
Thanks dude---. so other than the inaccessible tensioner issue its the same thinking as with a belt--if the chain is worn good chance theres tensioner wear too. I guess with the old XJ series engines (bikes) the miles traverlled were a lot less so the chance of it being a tensioner issue are a lot less.
franc123,
Aug 9, 9:22pm
Yes that's the guts of it, but if course it needs to be looked at properly. Most of the time you can get away with chain and tensioners only, but tensioner rail and sprocket wear can be an issue, remember the crank one has to deal with load from the whole system on half the amount of teeth of the cam sprockets.
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