the driver should have said fair enough, but you pay me the profit from overloads when we dont get caught.
mrcat1,
Dec 18, 7:37pm
Totally useless system for loggers as they piggy back their trailers.
henderson_guy,
Dec 18, 8:17pm
Just run it on the trucks, not necessarily the trailers. None of our trailers use EROAD, just the powered vehicles.
2sheddies,
Dec 18, 9:19pm
Hell yeah. I don't have much time for a lot of technology, but sometimes it has it's uses. I suppose the gubbiment likes it ,as it would stop the more dishonest types fiddling their off highway kms to get more of a rebate than they should.
mrcat1,
Dec 19, 4:57am
Waste of time doing that, either change the whole fleet or nothing at all, as some one still has to manually buy RUC for the trailers and the chance of going over RUC on the trailers.
mrcat1,
Dec 19, 5:00am
Tractors are exempt from RUC.
crankypants69,
Dec 20, 6:14am
Yep, I'm guessing you're right, will be interesting to see what the investigation shows. I've got a feeling fonterra will be looking hard too
skiff1,
Dec 20, 11:54pm
many are, but not all
kevymtnz,
Dec 21, 4:50am
Eroad RUC GPS tracking which then have to comply with Geofencing no speeding up before the 100kph sign eg
purplegoat,
Dec 21, 4:59am
So the man who thinks we will all die if we do 101 , happily admits to hogging the right lane from Bombay to silverdale also thinks that driving those sort of hours is acceptable .
If the police read my story I am done for ! My messages will be from Mt Eden. Mad Goat
bigfatmat1,
Dec 21, 7:01am
so you saying you work 20hrs a day seven days a week for 4 months of the year that would equate to under 3 hrs sleep a day. Somehow I don't think so]
clatty,
Dec 21, 7:36am
Its all go sometimes.Like carving time.
2sheddies,
Dec 21, 7:49am
I don't understand how you could possibly keep functioning like that. Non stop working every day for months at a time with 2 or 3 hours sleep. you'd be at serious risk of carking it through sheer exhaustion. It sounds impossible.
kiwitrader43,
Dec 21, 8:01am
How do you deal with the employment contract that states 2 15 minute breaks and 1 hour for lunch. 0730 start, 1700 finish. How do you fit in the breaks and manage to get the deliveries all done. Same contract states. No overtime will be paid!
a.woodrow,
Dec 21, 8:18am
I have a cousin that works in the US driving a harvester. Not sure how long his season goes but I believe it is around 4 months as well. He tells me they do 20 hour days 7 days a week. One day off a month.
clatty,
Dec 21, 9:06am
In Canada crops come off before snow arrives or stays put Drivers that fall asleep will go in a straight line for ever .
2get1,
Dec 21, 9:59am
But by breaching logbook hours to achieve the deliveries done you actually compound the problem by leading the employer to believe that it is doable.
you work your hours with your breaks and stop working for the day .If your contract says no overtime and you are out of driving hours you cant legally drive. If they were stupid enough to discipline someone or fire them for it the employement court would tear them a new ahole. You can not bully or force staff to break the law to get the job done. But people doing it allow the practice to continue. You have to stand up for your rights. and the law
2get1,
Dec 21, 10:05am
In a non driving role, I worked 95hrs a week for 3 months solid with one day off, the human body adapts. The US military did some pretty comprehensive research, that basically went along the lines of they mentally and physcially tested their guinea pigs for reactions, problem solving skills, along with reaction times, physical extertion, strength etc etc.
They kept them up for 14days solid with only from memory a 10 to 15 minute power nap every 3 to 4 hours. They found that after the 14days they were still functioning well, at a lesser degree obviously but not enough to worry about,. yes they were physically tired but mentally they were pretty good. Its amazing what the human body can adapt to and do when it has to.
brapbrap8,
Dec 21, 10:45am
Yes, only exception is if you get some rain, then we get some sleep. We have electronic time sheets when we clock in and out and everyone does 120-140hrs most weeks which averages out to 17-20hrs a day, although some jobs could be 30-40hrs non stop driving and you usually get a sleep after that.
Some people can cope on so little sleep, some people really can't you have to like the job and the lifestyle to do it.
gamefisher,
Dec 21, 11:02am
You got a link to that as that goes against what the health professionals are saying and I am talking about professors that study sleep deprivation. I went to a seminar about sleep deprivation and shift work.
2get1,
May 22, 9:18pm
No I don't, I read an article about it a couple of years ago,and can't recall if it was online or in print. It made for interesting reading tho and that's why I remember reading it and what it was about. I think the military wouldn't have been so concerned about the niceties of it given the subjects were enlisted men.
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