I would be interested to know the reason for the mechanic's "ticking time bomb" remark. If the dealer fixes the issue with the idle (generously in my opinion) I would be only too happy to accept.
seadubya,
Aug 13, 2:17pm
Someone is trying it on. Can I buy a car from you, ignore the gauges, weird noises etc until it dies, then bring it back and swap it for a better one? Why should I take responsibility for my stuff when you can reimburse me when my negligence takes its toll.
carclan,
Aug 13, 3:01pm
Five minutes of five miles which ever comes first.
stevo2,
Aug 13, 3:43pm
Come on Kaz, yer making sh1t up now. that would NEVER happen. (would it)
sw20,
Aug 13, 4:07pm
Cheeky bastards is my take. They are trying it on. I paid $12,000 for a 10 year old RX-8 a year ago. I've done 16,000kms. If the engine failed I wouldn't even bother contacting the dealer, it is my problem.
grangies,
Aug 13, 5:31pm
1)5 year old 50000km car. : 1 year if serviced properly 2)10 year old 80000km car : 3 months if serviced properly 3) 15 year old 140000km car : None 4) 20 year old 900000km car : None 5) 20 year old 200000km car : None 6) 20 year old and older car with average KM's for its age? : None
I'm talking mechanical guarantees here.
Bodywise, the vehicle should not have any rust issues when sold, or within an entire year. This should help stop dodgy dealers bogging up rust holes.
grangies,
Aug 13, 5:33pm
Cheeky bastards. I hope you win if it comes to disputes tribunal.
God, I could never be a car dealer. I'd end up flipping my lid at those type of customers.
kazbanz,
Aug 14, 8:44am
Nope its no joke. Im told the person concerned genuinely feels they should get their money back. That is the problem with the current situation legally. people are tiold all about their rights but NOT about their responsibilities as consumers. drive car till engine melts--No worries-dealer will pay.
stevo2,
Aug 14, 5:36pm
Unbelievable. -
red97,
Aug 16, 7:34am
Would it not save a lot of hassle if the dealer, at the time of purchase/negotiation made very clear what he/she was prepared to do with a very clear date in writing signed by both parties at which time all responsibilities for the vehicle passes from dealer to purchaser. This date would obviously vary depending on the dealers confidence in vehicle.
eg "look mate this is a 15 year old car with high kms if it shits itself this month by all means bring it back and I will sort it for you but after a month I don't want to know about it"
Is that too much to ask from supposedly professional sales people?
If I buy a product from a bank you can be sure that after negotiations conclude all requirements and responsibilities of both parties are clearly there in black and white why should a car deal be any different?
Step 1 Get a generic sales agreement Step 2 negotiate responsibilities of dealer and purchaser Step 3 add step 2 to step 3 Step 4 both parties sign Step 5 any future problems refer to document in signed in step 4
kazbanz,
Aug 16, 7:51am
Red- should ,could,would. The trouble is that the law as it stands makes agreements like that illegal. In fact worse than that a dealer by trying to do such a deal stands to get in a whole heap of trouble.
lookoutas,
Aug 16, 8:13am
This looks about what I would suggest - and expect.
kazbanz,
Aug 16, 8:28am
I agree with the concept but would be pushing the numbers higher.
brapbrap8,
Aug 16, 8:46am
That is what Giltraps (agricultural) do, an old tractor with 9,000hrs on the clock gets a bronze warranty with limited coverage, while one with 500hrs on the clock gets a gold warranty with close to manufacturer level coverage. All advertised in their listings, which of course they can do as they generally sell comercially not to joe average off the street.
gammelvind,
Aug 16, 4:51pm
It may be that some mechanics out there are right Richard Craniums, or the entitled customer is telling porkies about the mechanics actual comments.
bae13,
Oct 5, 4:35am
3 months, No matter what the vehicle or the KMS.
People need to remember that they are buying a car, they have issues from time to time. Its no ones problem but the owners. apart from the 3 months a reputable dealer will give you.
anything else they can bugger off, kazbanz!
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