I'm not The Goat, so I can only assume, and my assumption is that the goat is talking about what he is talking about, and the cat wants to change it to what he is talking about, but the goats not wearing it!
marte,
Nov 3, 6:38am
(2) The driver of vehicle A must, except when overtaking vehicle B with the intention of passing it, keep a sufficient distance from vehicle B to enable the driver of any other vehicle to overtake and pass vehicle A and then move in behind vehicle B when conditions are such that this can be done safely.
This situation peeves me off. Two truck and trailer units following each other, down to 70km/h due to winding and unlevel roads and once they get to the straight passing lanes, speed up to 90km/h, they keep the gap between them small, and there's no chance of anybody overtaking them at all.
philltauranga,
Nov 3, 6:42am
The reason the goat isnt "wearing it" is because the goat dosn't always know what he is talking about, and when people call him out on it it he starts acting like a monkey throwing sh1t.
sadmuddle,
Nov 3, 6:42am
I don't overtake vehicles unless it damn near stopping , maybe I should see a psychologist .
therafter1,
Nov 3, 6:53am
And in my experience not only do some of them try to close the gap that you are slotting into but they then come up close behind you in an intimidating manner, sometimes flashing lights, blowing their horns, gesticulations, the works as if you have done something wrong when it is them that are in the wrong. These are the sort of coots that give good professional drivers a bad name. I simply slowly back off the gas to increase my following distance on vehicle B so I have sufficient room to make my next pass and ensure that I have plenty of road available to me. I also use the space that I create to accelerate to the required speed needed to make the pass as quickly and safely as possible.
therafter1,
Nov 3, 6:56am
I don't think I've ever agreed with anything you have ever said on here, but on this occasion I think you could be quite correct.
therafter1,
Nov 3, 6:58am
I call those sorts of drivers elephant racers lol
therafter1,
Nov 3, 7:06am
These bloody elephant racers do it on the passing lanes as well. You are behind elephant racer A, he has mirrors and he knows he has a tailback behind him, at the start of the passing lane elephant racer A indicates and stays right and you all sit there as the speed decreases to about 40kph (Taihape deviation) while this galoot driving elephant racer A uses 2/3rd's of the passing lane to pass elephant racer B (who may not be an elephant racer at all) to get past when he is moving at maybe a couple of kph faster!
ema1,
Nov 3, 7:19am
I say do a major redevelopment of the rail system and take a lot of those large loads off our highways that weren't/still aren't to a very large extent not built to take those large loads. Frankly our roads aren't brilliant in most cases now and heavy loads don't do them a hell of a lot of good at all . period. Just needs a proactive railway operation rather than the lack luster rail operations of the past IMO.
therafter1,
Nov 3, 7:20am
Goodness me, you posted the link to the legislation. We must both have different interpretations of what is contained in the legislation (which shouldn't happen). To me 2.3 Use of lanes (1) A driver, when driving, must not use (b) on a two-way roadway marked in 2 or more lanes, a lane on the right side of the centre line unless the driver is passing another vehicle travelling in the same direction;
When you are travelling in the opposite direction to a passing lane there are 3 marked lanes. Your own, and the two coming towards you.
therafter1,
Nov 3, 7:24am
Agree entirely. The move away from rail for non essential/urgent/daily (as in produce, perishables etc) or over sized freight has been an unmitigated disaster for this countries roading system, highlighted nicely by the Kaikoura quake.
therafter1,
Nov 3, 7:25am
Watch this thing for a while so you can see most of its capabilities in action.
I have never been able to see the benefits of overtaking vehicles.
laurelanne,
Nov 3, 7:43am
If we all just agree to sadmuddles no overtaking ban, we could have saved our selves six pages of debate.
marte,
Nov 3, 7:45am
I agree 100%. Better railways with high speed shunting.
And a major upgrade of our main roads to take into account the future use of electric cars. ie, straight line road between points 'a' & 'b'. No windy up and down levels at all. = a--------b-------c.
Not, a~~~/\-~~~~===--~~b
socram,
Nov 3, 7:51am
. but I'd be slowing him up as I certainly wouldn't be doing 120kph - unless they upped the limit.
Oh I wish. If only every one did travel at 120kph, and legally, there wouldn't indeed need to be any overtaking, but they wouldn't and 90% probably couldn't.
therafter1,
Nov 3, 7:58am
Goodness me, contradictory, on the one hand they are saying go for it and on the other they are saying don't. What's the difference between 2 or more lanes and 3 lanes!
therafter1,
Nov 3, 8:04am
Whatever floats your boat. I prefer to drive my own drive as opposed to having the way I drive dictated by some dawdling idiot that cannot hold a constant speed, is texting or gazing around as opposed to driving the ruddy vehicle, stamps on the brakes at the mere sight of a corner speed advisory sign, belching unburnt diesel fumes and christ knows what else. I also prefer to have clear road in front of me as I drive ahead at all times which gives me more time to assess potential hazards . is that O/K with you?
marte,
Nov 3, 8:05am
We need to have 3 lane roads. One each way with alternate overtaking lanes.
therafter1,
Nov 3, 8:17am
And the roads are already wide enough for it in most places. Unfortunately the powers that be seem to have decided that it is beyond the capabilities of the average incompetent/low confidence steerers that our roads now seem to be infested with.
I have two elderly aunts that for years and years could not aobtain a drivers licence because they (a) couldn't start the bloody car and keep it running (manual chokes), and (b) couldn't come to grips with clutch use, gear selection etc . we move on, along comes the modern motor vehicle with engine management systems and automatic transmissions and viola they are now licensed drivers, they are both mobile health hazards to both themselves and other road users, thank christ they confine their driving to the local supermarket and hair dresser and back lol
purplegoat,
Nov 3, 8:19am
Agreed , on one of my regular jaunts across the desert road I was 5 cars back in the queue at the sountbound passing lane with about ten more cars behind me First car was a clattymuddle and took half the passing lane before he woke up and accelerated Other cars then followed at 101 and all moved back in to the left lane . I could see what was going to unfold AFTER the passing lane so smoked it past the 4 cars now in the left lane . I then set my cruise to a non ticketable speed . Looking in my mirror I could see the chaos unfold behind me as car at lead of queue slowed just a little bit and the result was a long line of pissed of cars that snaked their way across the rest of the desert rd , periodically I would see one pop out and make up a couple of places and then squeeze back into the bunched up snake again Me I would much rather be in my own space than jammed in the middle of that dangerous mob so like therafter1 I will briefly exceed the limit if it means I can safely clear a gaggle of sheep in a passing lane
purplegoat,
Nov 3, 8:20am
They are not drivers , they are merely steerers
ema1,
Nov 3, 8:30am
Ha ha. shake rattle and roll . eh?
laurelanne,
Nov 3, 8:33am
Another thought socram. This became an issue when passing on years of experience to a learner driver. Speed limits around town and when approaching pedestrian crossings are generally lower than what the law allows. Until you point out to a youngster that if someone steps onto a crossing from behind that car they don't realise they are going too fast.
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