Rant: Passing lane driver behaviour

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therafter1, Nov 3, 2:00am
The reason I didn't post the regulation in its entirety is so it didn't look like my post at # 225 . but obviously I must to avoid leaving myself open to accusations!
ema1, Nov 3, 2:03am
Here here, but when are we going to see this extra enforcement eh. ultimately it will cost the country heaps which we can't afford or is it the fact that this country/GOVT or powers that should be entrusted isn't proactive enough to get off their arses to radically change what we have now to something a hell of a lot safer with really proactive more meaningful enforcement. answer to that probably is 3 or 4 times the current Police dedicated to Road Policing.
What was the real reason for MOT Traffic Police being integrated/combined with the Police years ago anyway, IMO that was a major mistake right there !
therafter1, Nov 3, 2:05am
And here you are here with an inflammatory post! . we are supposedly adults, simply because we/you/I/he/they may have disagreed about something in a previous thread shouldn't mean that from that point onward we embark on some sort of weirdo vendetta in regard to everything said poster subsequently posts!
ema1, Nov 3, 2:06am
Nah I'm not going to "chuck toys around" therafter, you guys have chucked all the toys around already, been quite entertaining I must say.
therafter1, Nov 3, 2:10am
It could be happening now . 30 cars are approaching an oncoming patrol car all inside the minimum following distance, an eye is not batted . one car gets sighted pulling out to try to find a way thru the mobile chicane and the hawk snaffles him/her at 111kph and he is ticketed, while the other 30 carry on their merry way.

I would have to consult the fines list, but suspect the 111kph fetches 30 bucks or something, and the following too closely fetches 150, which one is the less safe of the two?
ema1, Nov 3, 2:11am
Boy you get hot under the collar at the least provocation, I would venture to say I merely made a suggestion and you "interpreted" it as inflammatory well that pretty much sizes up this entire thread frankly. ! Bye . as I said earlier I'll just observe the cut and thrust of this one from now on.
therafter1, Nov 3, 2:13am
I don't chuck toys mate, I post as tho I was speaking to whomever I'm responding to. If they interpret any of my posts as being toy throwing then that interpretation is a figment of their own imagination. I do not post anything that I wouldn't say to anyone directly in person.

Occasionally when people first meet me I have been described as rude and abrasive lol
snoopy221, Nov 3, 2:14am
the ole **Bearded One**

AYE
Goatshooting time again.
LOL

Admitedly i have seen some pedantic prat in a Honda and after 2 damn passing lanes.
Came the THIRD passing lane
and well.
When ya in a decent 302 ford V8.
3 WIDE AND GONEBURGER.
[ADMITEDLY I CAN'T RECALL IF THERE WERE YELLOW LINES IN THOSE DAYS]
therafter1, Nov 3, 2:14am
Need I say more!
therafter1, Nov 3, 2:15am
Probably cos ya weren't lookin cos ya eyes had gone all red on the inside lol
ema1, Nov 3, 2:16am
Have you ever seen one cop pulling up upteen dozen offending drivers all at once. pray tell me how on gods earth they could actually do that. more cops in any similar given situation and even then only a percentage will get pulled and charged with whatever.
Cart blanch I'm afraid doesn't happen when dealing to heaps of offending traffic when cops are actually so few and far between, that's when folks should be law abiding and not thinking they are beyond the law and doing what the bloody well like, frankly there's a thin line between what we have at the moment and anarchy on our roads. !
ema1, Nov 3, 2:20am
Aw but you will . that's a given.
ema1, Nov 3, 2:22am
Hmmmm wonder why?
therafter1, Nov 3, 2:25am
I have seen one copper pull two, as they have x amount of time that they can delay you for.

I have also seen scenarios when multiple vehicles have all been travelling at the same speed (or thereabouts) in excess of the posted limit and one of them has been pulled. When they have remonstrated they have been advised that the others were not stopped, you were . why can the same not apply to these mobiles chicanes following dawdlers, who by the way also seem to lead charmed lives as far as tickets are concerned.
therafter1, Nov 3, 2:27am
Cos a spades a spade, quite simple really. I personally don't mind being corrected if I'm calling a hoe a spade, as at the end of the day if I'm never corrected there will only ever be one idiot in the conversation.
ema1, Nov 3, 2:29am
Just goes to show a big percentage are getting away with whatever currently and in the near future that ain't going to change much that I can see, and folks are just going to drive on blithely and make up their own rules as they go. bugger that, even more reason why I prefer to fly !
Simple fact of the matter is enforcement hasn't/isn't keeping up with the massive increases of vehicular traffic numbers on our roads unfortunately, well not in the short term future at any rate !
ema1, Nov 3, 2:35am
True. just a matter of recognizing that though IMO.
therafter1, Nov 3, 2:39am
Well certainly while they keep harping on about speed.

Now before I go I am merely making an assumption here, but in yesterdays triple fatal south of Whangarei one woman wound up in the water table, her vehicle was damaged but she was unharmed. I would hazard a guess that she was quite probably travelling at the correct (or more, which is what I do) following distance which has given her time to survey options, and the option could well have been the water table. Following too closely is extremely hazardous and does not leave drivers time for making what can be split second decisions in developing situations over which they have no control.
ema1, Nov 3, 2:40am
Does that apply if the law is ever going to pull you over on any occasion, there is usually a reason why they do so IMO.
ema1, Nov 3, 2:48am
I haven't studied what happened there as I wasn't aware of it happening, been away from TV for a day or two and only catching up on it now, damn awful nasty crash that one was . such a sad thing. therafter. like you I like to have plenty of space ahead of me but the prevailing habit of folks tailgating( more so near and around cities/big towns) really is a major driver failing these days in NZ, if I have a case of that happening to me I prefer to pull over( stop sometimes ) and let the buggers "In Wolf Packs" (I call em) go by me and disappear into the distance, luckily it doesn't happen to much down my end of the country. thank god for that.
philltauranga, Nov 3, 2:52am
Ok, putting you in the same basket as goat was a bit ott. however my criticism towards you was with reference to implying I was twisting things, as you stated in the first paragraph of post #220, and this bit from post #176
" they just haven't worked it out yet lol"
So with all the facts on the table now. do you still think I missed my target?

You do realise that if anyone else made the comment goat did in post #105, I wouldnt bat an eyelid aye, but because goat is regularly in here abusing the fuk out of alot of other good posters, other posters including myself often feel compelled to call him out on his ranting bullsh1t.
sadmuddle, Nov 3, 3:39am
I have a lot of experience dealing with men in contracting field s etc. What I have seen many times is hot tempers guys who fume about being held up by a car towing a trailer but at home they don't help their partners or wife in any way. Just sit in found of something. In fact I have a brother in law for decades made his wife raise 4 children on a small pension. He got thrown out recently as she is exhausted. If some big mouth is going on about a vehicle Find out what he is up to at home. You will get some surprises . One thing big mouths don't do is work.
therafter1, Nov 3, 6:01am
You have misinterpreted my posts, I was neither defending nor siding with the goat. All I was doing (in my acerbic manner) was pointing out that a couple of you guys appeared to have jumped to conclusions. He hadn’t mentioned anything about yellow lines, that was introduced into the discussion further down the track. A passing lane (to me) works in both directions, with the priority for the lane being the side of the road in which the lane is headed. If you are travelling in the opposite direction to the lane and there isn’t a yellow line on your side of the road then you are able in certain situations, i.e. no oncoming traffic and plenty of available road to legally go 3 wide. I have never done it and probably never would, but that’s beside the point. There are passing lanes that the powers that be have decided that that option shouldn’t be available to drivers and they are usually (much to the consternation of an earlier poster) double yellowed. Most of us do know there is no such thing as a double yellow but it seems to have sneaked into the kiwi drivers vernacular along the way.
It was Mrcat @ #146 that aroused my interest, as I too thought it was probably an illegal manoeuvre, but as it turns out in certain situations it isn’t, hence my missed the target and haven’t worked it out yet quips as The Goat is actually correct in post # 150
therafter1, Nov 3, 6:04am
Interesting! . have you considered a career in psychology?
philltauranga, Nov 3, 6:27am
Well, lets clear this up then.
For starters, goat is not correct in post 150 because mrcat is refering to a passing lane.
THERE ARE NO PASSING LANES * WITHOUT* A YELLOW LINE to the right of the right hand lane.

Jumping to conclusions?
Goat didnt need to mention yellow lines because:

"THERE ARE NO PASSING LANES * WITHOUT* A YELLOW LINE "
Soooo. how can we *NOT* come to that conclusion?

Edit
To add to this, when the passing lane is in the opposing direction you STILL can not go 3 wide, that peice of legislation you conveniently left out states when there are 3 marked lanes you can not use the right lane, so HOW? can you legally go 3 wide in an opposing passing lane?