Still doesn't compare with a rally driver.Circuit driving is a walk in the park in comparison,that's why Murph is finding it so hard considering he was one of out top circuit drivers, the best he has done after two years is 4th in a national rally.
eddiedean1,
Jul 2, 7:58am
Poor mciver has to commentate the warriors games. He must be about to go hee soon
newtec1,
Jul 2, 7:59am
The best driver we have ever produced is Jimmy Richards.He was a champion on the circuit and a top driver on gravel if you care to look back at his results. MacClaren Amon and Hulme in sportscars endurance,but they never competed off road.
newtec1,
Jul 2, 8:00am
He can go anywhere he likes,he is an embarrassment to true sports followers of any sport.
sr2,
Jul 2, 10:04am
Rubbish, just different skill sets. look at Patton, unbelievably skillful in the loose but always struggling on the hard?
socram,
Jul 2, 7:27pm
Not sure that is the case! Hardened animals, yes, but fitter? I seem to remember a UK series that pitted different sports people across a wide range of disciplines. Jody Scheckter walked all over them.
eddiedean1,
Jul 2, 10:29pm
Not sure if many rugby players could make split second decisions at those speeds and take into account all the team orders, tyre wear and tear and strategy that goes into car racing. I think we need to give the drivers more credit. Having said that most drivers would not have the specimen type physique to survive top level rugby or league
serf407,
Jul 2, 11:59pm
Derek Warwick was a World (UK) stockcar champion before he was a GP driver. Keke Rosberg was the slowest in the rally car section of the comp, (the year Scheckter won?) the comment from writeup - the writer thought keke should have been faster because finns are supposed to be good at rally driving. '83 - Pond throwing the rover v8 around like it is the chevette he previously drove. https://youtu.be/fCOr_YWXnMQ?t=15m19s (followed by metro gymkhana &race)
newtec1,
Jul 3, 2:36am
Rubbish to you too.Are you talking sealed rally surface as in hard,if so it's still a rally stage and doesn't compare to circuit racing.How many circuit drivers have succeeded in rallying,only one i recall and that was Jimmy.Plenty have tried and all failed, yet a rally driver could adapt to a circuit far easier than circuit to rally.Once you have been around a circuit you know exactly where you are going for the next 30 laps,but in rallying you are on new roads with every corner a different one with a different surface,camber ,grip etc.I know they have pace notes,but that is only a guide to what's ahead ,yet the driver still has to read each corner as a new challenge with obstacles which would be banned at any circuit.And i am referring to trees next to the road,drops off on the side, or banks each side which will destroy the car if you make a mistake.Nah circuit racing is for pussies compared to rallying,still a lot of fun,but doesn't compare.
newtec1,
Jul 3, 2:39am
They probably couldn't, i was just comparing the physical attributes of a rugby player. Horse for courses,rugby players play rugby,racing drivers race cars. All different skill sets.
eddiedean1,
Jul 3, 3:33am
Marcus ambrose backed down pretty quick when murph stood up to him that day at bathurst
nz_stacie,
Jul 3, 8:24am
Murphy sua
newtec1,
Jul 7, 2:39am
What about him. He didn't race cars.
sr2,
Jul 7, 3:47am
From my experience from spending a lot of time in competition cars over the last two decades and beg to differ. Your gung-ho attitude is all good for a play station or a spectators seat but you are making sweeping generalizations while attempting to "compare" two very precise yet different driving disciplines.
intrade,
Jul 7, 4:49am
well i put him on the idiot list when he done advertising some $hit products
berg,
Jul 7, 4:54am
Paddon
eddiedean1,
Jul 7, 5:07am
Yea, Murph was a real good driver. Murphy su'a played cricket for nz - different guy
rak1,
Jul 7, 5:47am
Would be interesting to compare 4 wheel drivers fitness to the likes of a MotoGp rider.
sr2,
Jul 7, 8:48am
LOL, dyslexia rules 'KO'?
newtec1,
Jul 7, 9:03pm
Where do you get this gung-ho attitude from.I held an F I A rally licence at one stage and know what it is all about,and compared to circuit racing is far more challenging as i said.Good circuit drivers are good at what they do,extremely good,but not on a par with good rally drivers for those points i mentioned.Like i said if circuit racers had the same obstacle/dangers on each side of the circuit as a rally they would be banned instantly.Imagine putting a few trees around Puke or Hampton on the side of the track with no protection.Not to mention different surfaces and cambers etc on each stage,nah circuit racing is for pussies,a lot of fun and skill,still pussies.
eddiedean1,
Jul 7, 10:35pm
Ever noticed how lean those guys are? Even with all that gear on they look like they weigh 60 kgs
sr2,
Jul 8, 4:49am
Nothing personal intended but accusing the likes of Murph, Dixon, Hamilton, etc. of being 'pussies' still sounds like either PlayStation or rubbish talk to me!
socram,
Jul 8, 5:26am
They are different sports. Because some choose one over the other is exactly that. Choice. Who is to say that either could or couldn't adapt if they really chose to?
What about Stirling Moss? Mille Miglia, Monte Carlo Rallies, Alpine Rallies (in the days when the Monte Carlo Rally was for real rally drivers, not a succession of special stages. ) F1, saloons, sports cars etc. Bearing mind his top line career was a mere 14 years, his record is remarkable.
Graham Hill's Triple Crown may not have included rally successes, but to win Le Mans, Indy and F1 titles is still covering three disciplines.
Nuvolari and John Surtees (and several others) were both more than competent bike racers, but managed the switch to 4 wheels very successfully. Who is to say they couldn't have adapted to rallies too?
Rallying like Moto GP or any form of bike racing is way, way beyond my ability (and interest) and I take my hat off to them. Equally, they say that 85% of car racers would be within 15% of a GP driver in the same car, but it is that last 15% that makes a successful racer as opposed to just a competitor.
Murph is at least having a go at rallying.
gunhand,
Jul 8, 5:30am
A penis measuring competition has ensued here I see. Kinda beats the o'l Holden Ford thing, mind you Holden and Ford are hardly Holden and Ford anymore so I suppose the bar has moved. Bit like asking was Jeff Wilson a better Cricket or Rugby player, or maybe commentator. Has any driver/rider who has crossed over either way or two other kinds of motorsport reached the top in both types? Know a few who have done well crossing over but not quite hit the pinnacle of it.
eddiedean1,
Jul 8, 6:45am
I'll bet murph has the edge in the competition above! Ambrose got no chance
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