Hey guys a semi hypothetical question for you. if you walked into a dealer and saw a 4x4 badged as a izuzu Mu but the window card says / you are told that it is in fact a Honda Jazz that's been rebadged. What would your thoughts be? -Given the Jazz referred to is a badge engineered Mu
allan_mac,
Aug 24, 11:17pm
Stick with what's on the registration, or what it was first registered as in the country of origin (if used import). Now what to do if the registration says Honda.
I wouldn't care. The dealer should simply include a note "This badge-engineered vehicle displays Isuzu badges instead of the original Honda badges. Honda badges can be supplied and fitted for $X if the buyer prefers. "
vtecintegra,
Aug 25, 12:48am
Different car entirely. The Jazz is question here was one of the rebadges Honda did to sell SUVs before they had their own (the other was the Crossroads which was a LandRover of all things)
poppy62,
Aug 25, 1:43am
Same applies to the Toyota IQ, as a re-badged Scion Q or the Aston Martin Cygnet, does it appeal more? or is one likely to say the Aston parts will be too expensive. Also would you be more likely to buy the Toyota Aygo over the same Peugeot 107/108 and Citroen C1 clones, because Joe Public thinks one is more reliable. It's all in the name! I'd take the Euros over the Japs (my preference).
oversize,
Aug 25, 2:24am
as ,long as it is honestly describe I wouldn't care.
trouser,
Aug 25, 2:42am
Wouldn't really matter too much to someone buying down there in the price range. Would get a million more views as a mu instead of a jazz.
msigg,
Aug 25, 3:09am
I would walk away, attention to detail is not good, what else could there be wrong. That's what I would think.
hamishcookie,
Aug 25, 4:15am
Wouldn't bug me as much as chev badges on commies, why never opel badges?
gammelvind,
Aug 25, 4:36am
If they can’t find Opel badges then they would look great with Vauxhall.
gunhand,
Aug 25, 4:42am
Why do you suppose this happens?
rob_man,
Aug 25, 5:41am
There are some people too stupid to understand the whole badge engineering concept, there were owners of Ford Lasers who weren't aware they were driving a Mazda back in the day. Or a Telstar/ 626. I remember when the first Honda/Isuzus started turning up and the compliance shops wouldn't pass them because they weren't on their list of acceptable models. It wouldn't worry me if the badges had been changed but only because I'm in the trade and can tell the difference.
mojo49,
Aug 25, 5:45am
When I was looking for my 97 Disco, I also looked at a Honda Crossroads. Had the latter been what I wanted i would have bought it, knowing it was a badge engineered Landrover Disco, so I have no problem with badge engineering so long as I know what I am actually buyimg. After all, want a new Kia, why not buy a better value for money better speced Hyundai? Same sub frame, mechanicals etc.
s_nz,
Aug 25, 6:45am
Seems really common on Toyota Harriers (JDM version of Lexus RX with lesser trim, and often smaller engines).
I have seen it done the other way too where Toyota Landcruiser badges have been put on Lexis LX (Lexus LX is a flashed up Landcruiser).
Seems in general people want to don't really like badge engineered vehicles, so generally change the badges to reflect where the car was made.
Personally I think it looks shit where the badge on the steering wheel doesn't match the badges on the exterior. And arn't really a fan of badge swapping.
That said, I don't think there is an issue with a dealer selling a traded rebadged car were the badges reflect the same car that was actually sold with that badge (i.e. commodore with Pontiac G8 badges and bumpers), that is as long as the re-badge is declared.
Regarding the Honda Jazz (Isuzu mu), I had never heard of this before, but actually saw one today by chance. I guess a past owner got sick of people thinking their car was a small hatch back, not a small 4x4 when they told people what is was, so changed badges.
kazbanz,
Aug 27, 5:02pm
hey thanks guys. Apreciate the feedback
the-lada-dude,
Aug 27, 5:32pm
Honda Jazz, ? . aren't they Italian
supernova2,
Aug 27, 6:43pm
Rip the badges off and get some Opel Frontera ones. Much more salable as an Opel!
richardmayes,
Aug 27, 6:51pm
I think you need to simplify the explanation slightly:
They are the same car, some came out as Honda's and some came out as Isuzus. Some previous owner of this one peeled the Honda badges off. Like how some people get Chev badges for their Holden Captivas.
sifty,
Aug 27, 7:25pm
Yeah as long as it's explained I don't think people would have an issue. Guess they'd like to know about parts/service availibility if it was some sort of weird orphan.
On another note, my Grandad was horrified to discover the Chrysler he had bought was actually a Mitsubishi. He promptly sold it as he'd spent several years trying to shoit down Mitsi's in the Pacific in WW2.
kazbanz,
Aug 27, 8:52pm
In some cases the relationship is even closer.
gazzat22,
Aug 27, 10:28pm
Kaz.Our Australian Cousins have been doing it for years .A trip to Brisbane in 1996 I saw Toyotas Holdens Nissans.with intermingled badges.Friend with a garage showed me an early 80,s Toyota S/W with of all things a Holden Commodore4 motor fitted.!
rob_man,
Aug 27, 10:33pm
South Africa had Hillman Hunters with Peugeot engines.
vtecintegra,
Aug 27, 10:59pm
There were AU market Pulsars with a boat anchor Holden 4 in too.
Other oddities - Bluebird and Patrol with Ford badges - Falcon Ute with Nissan badge - Camry and Corolla badged as Holden - Commodore badged as Toyota
gazzat22,
Aug 27, 11:12pm
The commodore i was referring to was a Toyota s/w badged as a toyota and to all external and interior appearances a Toyota but open the bonnet/hood and there was in my friends words "a poxy holden 4 cylinder motor!
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