This was a news item today which has obviously come about due to the number of electric cars now exceeding the number of charging stations. This will mean the owners of long range electric cars will no longer be able to fully charge up at only one station. This I think will result in less interest in long range electric cars.
intrade,
Jan 21, 7:23am
yea loads of dreamers abouts.
gph1961,
Jan 21, 7:29am
boo hu
harm_less,
Jan 21, 8:04am
What was? How about a link to the news article?
franc123,
Jan 21, 8:17am
Yeah I saw the article. Cry us all a hydro lake, this was entirely predictable a long time ago. Not surprising given the smug behaviour from these trendies that they also selfish socket hogs lol.
harm_less,
Jan 21, 8:29am
'Free' charging is usually provided by retail outlets or eateries as an enticement to visit their establishments. Same as supermarkets providing fuel savings tokens on larger purchases in a way.
Where have you seen publically funded free EV charging facilities? I doubt these even exist.
kateley,
Jan 21, 10:07am
Local council put one in outside the library in Richmond, Nelson - so not tax but ratepayers money (which I think is worse)
s_nz,
Jan 21, 10:23am
Without you linking the article we have no ideal what you are on about. But I can say this.
The charge.net.nz network is NZ's largest network of DC fast chargers. They do not have a time limit, and they have not made any press releases since November. As long as you are happy to pay their fee's, you are welcome to charge your 100kWh EV from empty to full if you like (Most of their network is maxes out at 50kW, so this would take over 2 hours, But they are starting to roll out the odd 300kW charger set that can basically feed as much power as the car an accept).
The vector DC fast charger's in Auckland have had a 30minute time limit for a some years now, so no recent changes there. These chargers in urban area's (especially new-market) suffer a bit of congestion due to local's using them instead of their chargers at home. Hay who doesn't love something for free. Note that vector have indicated that they will set up a billing system for these in due course. Likely congestion will dissipate as people opt instead for home charging. Most in the EV community support a fee being added to these. Will free them up for those who actually need them.
In terms of slow AC charger's, some have time limit's, some don't. Basically no EV would want to spend the several hours it would take to charge on AC power that the warehouse, but it would be nice (especially for shorter range EV's) to pick up an extra few km range as they pop in for 20mins or so. These chargers aren't really worth setting up billing for, and are provided by the host business to attract and retain customers (just like many businesses choose to provide free customer car-parking).
As a closing note, EV's owners (especially on paid fast charging stations) rarely fully charge. For example, If I was doing a 500km round day trip in a kona (450km range), I would leave home with a fully charged battery, and look to pick up a fast charger at some point in the second half of the trip. 10mins would give the extra 50km of range I needed to get home. Might stay another 5-10 mins for a bit of safety margin in case of detours or the likes, but little point staying longer than that when I have cheaper power at home.
If it is the above one It's 40c/kWh, billing done via charge.net.nz
That one has a 60min time limit.
Given the branding on it I would strongly suggest that the local lines company paid for it's install, rather than the ratepayer.
gblack,
Jan 21, 6:31pm
News from 1921. The number of petrol cars is increasing so long lines at petrol stations means that interest will drop in petrol driven cars. Or they build more petrol stations.
You didn't think maybe that with more EVs on the roads that they might just install more chargers?
bigfatmat1,
Jan 21, 7:24pm
was free about two years ago. Not anymore
tamarillo,
Jan 21, 7:29pm
Maybe this is more about people not parking and leaving it for many hours blocking others trying to use it?
intrade,
Jan 21, 8:01pm
Well could be plus the fact that 40 cent per kwh makes it more expensive then my vw and fiat diesel to drive 100km Both do above 60miles to a gallon. Electric cars have there place for towns like London or Auckland anywhere else it makes little sense to own or operate them.
alowishes,
Jan 21, 10:16pm
How long does it take to put enough petrol into a car to drive 500km? How long to charge an EV to do the same distance?
Ergo how many extra charging stations would have to be built to cope with the (allegedly) forecast vast increase of EVs?
harm_less,
Jan 21, 10:20pm
Q: How many people have home charging facilities for their EV? A: Most
Not for that charger. Using their 40KwHr as the amount of charge, the charger will absorb over 240 KW from the network for 10 minutes. At 240V that will be 1000 Amps. No matter how you do it, that needs a large investment in supply infrastructure. Not for your average home user.
But even at 10 minutes, it is still at least 4 times slower than topping up with petrol.
alowishes,
Jan 21, 11:04pm
Dead right! Exactly the point I was trying to make.
alowishes,
Jan 21, 11:07pm
And if you’re a commercial traveler, on a road trip, away on holiday? ( ie operating away from home) Or have to park away from home/out on the street and live in an apartment etc?
harm_less,
Jan 21, 11:23pm
Which is why the Gridserve facility linked to above has food and other businesses incorporated in it. Fuel yourself while filling your EV; it's already common practice at motorway service centres.
do not have an accident with a truck loaded with electricity, it will hurt. oh wait lol
tygertung,
Jan 22, 11:29pm
SO they are becoming more popular, perhaps they will just put in more chargers to meet demand, same as they did with petrol stations?!
gazzat22,
Jan 22, 11:54pm
Its a question when not IF some form of RUC,s are put on EV,s so they pay their share of road maintenance and building.
3tomany,
Jan 23, 12:56am
This is why they call the leaf the parasite of EV's. They have so little range and such self entitled owners that they clog up charging stations after only being driven a short distance. Some owners even leave them low on charge to get cheap or free power in town.
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