Wrong. Nothing to do with safety. There are zoning laws in some Counties like Sacramento preventing anyone even mechanics from working at home on anything other than minor repairs. Replacing brake parts is a minor repair.
redhead18,
Nov 3, 12:02pm
So replacing brakes is a minor repair and NOTHING TO DO with SAFETY ?
Pleases NOTE ONLY THREE AVIC;S have posted in here CLEARLY You are NOT one of them.
franc123,
Nov 3, 12:08pm
Lol that's easy, me, you and sandypheet.
pauldw,
Nov 3, 2:22pm
This was referring to the incorrect claim that in California only mechanics can work on brakes. It is a zoning issue not a safety one. On private domestic properties only what they list as minor repairs can be done. Changing brake parts is in their list of minor work. You can perform minor repairs on your own car if you have a garage but not on the street.You'd probably run into the same issue trying to run a repair garage on a residential property here.
tygertung,
Nov 3, 4:48pm
Lets face it, it isn't the world's most challenging job, replacing a pair of brake pads is it? Only takes a few minutes and the new pads are in.
sandypheet,
Nov 3, 6:15pm
Thankfully retired for 6 months.
martin11,
Nov 3, 6:30pm
Perhaps his attitude to the WOF place was a lot different .
franc123,
Nov 3, 7:10pm
You'd be amazed how many can get that wrong. It isnt just about replacing a part, but also knowing about how it actually works. I've lots count of how many untrained numpty vehicle owners ive seen trying to save money who have fitted their nice new pads up against clearly ridged up rotors or ones that are lipped that badly on the outside they are dragging even when released. Come in for a WoF and it's like who the f%#k was responsible for this. One FAIL stamp on the check sheet and another on the owners forehead.
kazbanz,
Nov 3, 7:53pm
In fairness mate. Ive dealt with the end result of genuinely stupid mistakes made by highly qualified and experienced guys. A couple that come to mind. 1) 30 years in the trade.AVI instructor no less.fitted oil filter where the old O ring was still in place. ---oil dumped everywhere 2) 10 years qualified in the trade.Fitted new brake pads where one old pad was still in the caliper. -I don't know how either. Im not saying you are wrong but experienced guys screw up too.
kazbanz,
Nov 3, 8:02pm
You need to read the post in context. The California law considers brake pad replacement to be "minor mechanical" work. Therefore can be done by a "shadetree mechanic" Look it up. No one is arguing as to brakes being vital safety equipment. all that's being said is California law makers made a decision as to what can and can't be done.
richardmayes,
Nov 3, 9:03pm
I can see both sides of the argument on this one.
The old-fashioned brakes on my Triumph it is really easy to change the front pads with basic garden shed tools. Jack up car, remove wheel, pull out the two split pins, withdraw the old pads, clean and push home the pistons, install the new pads, replace the split pins.
The floating calipers on my Falcon were obviously designed to simplify construction of the caliper, but it does mean you have to unbolt the caliper and remove it from the hub. and take care not to damage the two little rubber booties under the sliding ends of the bolts. and take care to hang the caliper up on something so that you're not straining the brake hose. and bolt the caliper back onto the hub when you're finished and tighten correctly. Easy for an old pro such as yourself, but plenty of little steps that a home handyman like myself could get wrong.
kazbanz,
Nov 3, 9:15pm
nahh mate I'm not for a second arguing brake work can be tricky. Only that redhead took a post out of context.
9888.3. No person shall operate an “official” lamp or brake adjusting station unless a license therefor has been issued by the director. No person shall issue, or cause or permit to be issued, any certificate purporting to be an official lamp adjustment certificate unless he or she is a licensed lamp adjuster or an official brake adjustment certificate unless he or she is a licensed brake adjuster. (Amended by Stats. 1990, Ch. 1433, Sec. 6.)
9888.4. An owner of a fleet of three or more vehicles who is not an interstate carrier may be licensed by the director as a licensed station, if the owner complies with the rules and regulations of the bureau. Those fleet owner stations shall not certify the adjustment of lamps or brakes except on vehicles which constitute the owner’s fleet. (Amended by Stats. 1990, Ch. 1433, Sec. 7.)
kazbanz,
Nov 3, 10:15pm
You are still missing the point. The intent has nothing to do with safe repairs etc and everything to do with "property values"
strobo,
Nov 3, 10:32pm
Do all the pistons move freely in and out ?.I think in your case the brakes are best left to professionals as obviously you don't have a clue.
gph1961,
Nov 4, 6:02am
all silent. so far so good
laurelanne,
Nov 4, 7:44am
Thanks for the humour gph1961. Should be an end to it now.
strobo,
Nov 4, 7:52am
At least he come back to the msge board with an update.Consider his son may have a better attitude towards inspection centres! and are many reasons why brakes fail. He will be back sometime with another moan .I enjoy his banter anyways.and he got his wof.Also 1/2 agree what he is on about ,but im not happy hearing about the simplistic Pass /fail and comment simply worn in the check box and not having the actual detailed brake test sheet handed to him .after all he paid for it! as it's a valuable form for diagnostics. Go somewhere else.next time make sure get the print out from the brake dyno .or take the failed brakes to a specialist.Look forward to seeing more of his posts.
strobo,
Nov 4, 7:55am
op reckoned #70 was "useless as tits on a bull" with not much to say ! and I couldn't agree more. Op had more humour in my opinion
gph1961,
Nov 4, 8:19am
relax yous all too clever for me so unable for me to elucidate
franc123,
Nov 4, 9:16am
Anyone can make an error but those are minuscule compared to what the DIY experts and YouTube students are capable of. I was coming more from the angle that the uninitiated don't have a proper sense of how things should look or feel, how tight a slide pin or piston should fit for instance, and how much rotor wear is acceptable. Safety systems should never be tampered with by the untrained unless they are being supervised by someone who is, at best it could damage the vehicle or related parts or at worst cause a serious crash. This is why I never give such advice on here to people that in some cases cannot even correctly name the components concerned, get pro help if in doubt.
4.11,
Nov 4, 5:43pm
wheres the place? sounds like a good workshop to pass all my heaps of crap im trying to get road legal now they are all registered because of covid
kazbanz,
Oct 29, 1:53am
Not disagreeing mate.
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