Centre Hanger bearing

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amberley1, Jan 9, 4:58am
I rebuilt my BA Falcon driveshaft with aftermarket uni joint and hanger bearing, also did all rubbers and replaced with Nolathane, the car drives like new, definitely worth the effort.

wind.turbine, Jan 9, 5:34am
unfortunately its like anything, use it or loose it.
sometimes its harder on rubber bushes etc to sit unused then all of a sudden it get pulled out of the shed, the rubber has aged while sitting then once it gets made to work it tears.

We have an old 4x4 canter which we literally never used in the 6 months between cofs, it sat in the shed for 6 months, get it out to take for a cof at same place and a heap of suspension bushes are torn.

its not that hard to replace, did mine on my triton about 3 years ago, its the second one thats been replaced on it although first was not done in my time.

basically the mechanic is worried he is not gonna mark the points on the U-joint correctly and he will reverse them throwing the shaft out of balance.
Did this exact thing after I cleaned up the joint and somehow wiped my marks clean off.
so a 50/50 chance of getting it right and sure enough after a trip at highway speeds it was wrong, 15 min job to rip it back off and turn it 180 and then all was smooth.

if I can do it a mechanic should have no problems, maybe find a new one?

ronaldo8, Jan 9, 5:38am
So let me get this straight, you can use aftermarket parts on other vehicles just not on Fords. Well thats some impressive stuff, a ford
somehow knows that a part isn't ford branded genuine wheeras other cars do not . Is this some secret sauce ford voodoo is it ?

Spoooooky. How doooo they do it!

gt40-01, Jan 9, 8:56pm
I had the center bearing and uni joints replaced on my 2004 ba fairmont(basically the same set up as your territory) it cost me 500 with the price of the bearing and uni joints included in that price,it took two hours and was done perfectly,if a mechanic can't do that job then do not use them,as an easy tutorial video before they do the job is easy to find on you tube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZJ4Ef6AKiA

angora_al, Dec 19, 6:05am
Hi you experts, Just failed a WoF due to the Centre Hanger Bearing Torn, what puzzles me, is that the car hasn't really moved for the last 6 months, so how does something get torn. Suggested repair cost $600. my car is a 2005 Ford Territory, seems to still be driving well. my other mechanic won't touch it, as if repaired,the driveshaft becomes unbalanced . Im assuming Ford will want big Dollars

poppy62, Dec 19, 7:17am
It's basically a rubber mount. That the hanger bearing sits in and supports the 2 piece drive shaft. Like most rubber mounts it is subject to all the elements of nature plus the rigours of the driveshafts movements. The rubber perishes and tears and if really bad can cause a real problem for the driveshaft. Get a few quotes for the job but try your local Ford dealer first, they may actually be the cheapest.

realtrader1, Dec 19, 7:23am
It shouldn't if marked appropriately and new one fitted correctly but if balancing IS affected due to a replacement mount (which I suspect is not the case when done properly) get the mount onto the driveshaft and take the assembly to an engineering co to be balanced. Not hard or expensive! Either that or go secondhand.

franc123, Dec 19, 8:50pm
Well its 15 years old now, its actually done well if its the original one, it is a common fail point. Balance of the whole thing shouldnt be a problem IF the repairer knows what to do. It is certainly a good idea to get it checked while it's removed to make sure everything is how it should be, those vehicles are sensitive to it being out.

intrade, Dec 19, 8:57pm
you can only really use ford parts on ford anyhow. so unless rockauto have the part and listed ase ford oem. you have to buy from ford dealer.
Repairer in germany uk all say this exact same thing. I watch a guy with a taxi business and repair. he said the same thing. flippen heck 250 pound for that hose from ford. he said.
you can be sure in a taxi business he would use aftermarket if he could
every one said dont use aftermarket its going to be the start of your nightmares if you do. is basically what they all warned about.

franc123, Dec 19, 9:05pm
Rubbish the whole bearing and support assembly is readily available aftermarket from several suppliers there are a couple of different sizes of them depending on what drivetrain it's got in it. It isnt compulsory to use a genuine part in this case.

intrade, Dec 19, 9:11pm
franc123 as usuall you dont actuarly listen nor understand what i said. i never said it dont exist i said every porfessional repair shop warns about not to use aftermarket parts on a ford . its a bit like you dissing vw for failing waterpumps. when you dont have 1 clue as to why they fail and just talk crap about vw. If professional repairer engine rebuilder say do not use anyything but geniuen ford parts then i think they are way more likely to be accurate then somone who just wants to come here and say i am wrong out of principal.
i never said you cant use them parts and yes there is a chance it works but there also is a chance you have other problems . if its not 100 persent identical. And i guess that comes from ford will sue anyone who makes the parts identical like they did sue autel for having factory software in the scantool. PS autel won the lawsuit against ford.

lakeview3, Dec 19, 9:18pm
I have just this week had my centre hanging bearing done to get a warrant. My car has done 320,000kms 2003.

OP likely yours has been like it was before you stopped using it 6 months ago. I was driving around in mine and had no clue there was anything amiss (aMaybe the odd clunk or so? ).

Anyhoo, it’s all fixed now. It cost around $800 for the hanger bearing to be fixed. I can’t give you exact figure because I had some other stuff done as well. Mine is a Holden anyway so the costs will vary.

I had never heard of a centre hanging bearing until this week lol.

intrade, Dec 19, 9:25pm
This would explain why mechanics dont want to touch that ford. They do know it can be there worst nightmare in combacks. if you have to pay retail at ford and then fix it makes it absolute not worth to bother. Toyota is no different they also want full retail . for vw i get 20% discount off geniuen parts from vw dealers i buy from. From toyota i once got 2% lol

intrade, Dec 19, 9:27pm
#8 holden is actuarly not expensive geniuen astra oil filter 10.80 doller from holden dealership who sold the astra in manukau. 480 was the radiator and 180 the cam and the crank sensor each. all geniuen parts.

lakeview3, Dec 19, 9:27pm
yes I believe they took off my whole driveshaft sent it somewhere else, repaired the hanger bearing, then balanced it.

lakeview3, Dec 19, 9:28pm
I love my Holden, but sadly it’s now an ‘Olden. getting old and worn just like me

franc123, Dec 19, 9:37pm
Thats because you generally are wrong out of principal and spend too much time watching misguided Yanks doing repairs on YouNoob, and can't even understand your own posts! If you had actually done that repair on that vehicle you would know that they work fine, BNT sell crateloads of them every year. You made (yet another) statement that was FACTUALLY INCORRECT. I think you should actually gain some experience repairing Australian sourced cars before giving advice on them, you just embarrass yourself constantly.

franc123, Dec 19, 9:41pm
It's only a problem for dopey backyarders who don't know what they are doing. Fords are really no different to anything else on the road in terms of repair, in fact in some respects easier.

intrade, Dec 19, 9:43pm
umm i hardly watch americans i watch redhead zilinderkopf technik who did say exactly what i said for ford.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npF6Wimv7_c
this video he talks you got to check all and every part now .
first few parts he shows are faulty stuff in the last 3 to 4 weeks
3 to 4 month later parts faild. thermostat he shows
damaged brand new piston rings. potentiall failing engine after warranty is up if you go ahead and use that.
Seal ring in timing cover faulty from new. that maker is erling i can tell by the box

franc123, Dec 19, 9:53pm
Not sure what the relevance of a German who would have never seen an Australian Ford in his life has to this particular subject.

strobo, Dec 19, 9:57pm
Have to agree with franc .A no bullshit story . I had a problem years ago with a Ford falcon xr6 turbo in finding a new turbo .of course you'd ring Ford first to get direction with costs avon city ford was $22000 retail and Hutchies was $18000 retail.seriously the turbo ,not the car! so I got them to fax me the quotes for shits and giggles.Anywho got one from a local turbo shop new for $3500 then .And they are just Garrett T3 turbos Nothing Ford about them, no Ford stamp on them at all.Ford don't manufacture turbo's period.As with centre bearing hangers Don't even bother for a Ford part number.

intrade, Dec 19, 9:57pm
its a global problem it shows what roulette you play with aftermarket parts.
Also should make it clear why that other mechanic did not want to know about fixing it

kingfisher21, Dec 19, 10:13pm
My god intrade the retard is talking through a hole in his ass this time, he's so far out of touch with reality on this one.

apollo11, Dec 19, 10:16pm
I seldom understand what you 'actuarly' say.

franc123, Dec 19, 10:17pm
The real eye opener there is why there was a $4k difference between two branches of the same company! It's certainly a game the car companies play. When cars are relatively new they will charge the earth for certain parts because theres no competition. Prices come down once aftermarket stuff becomes available or else their OEM supplier starts selling the parts under their own brand once whatever agreement they have finishes. I can recall HT lead sets for AU V8's being about $800+gst per bank about 15 years ago, they are a fraction of that now for a whole set. However on the other side of it, it can be possible to buy OEM stuff for cheaper than aftermarket too depending on who you source from.