As above, did you indicate left while slowing and swerving left! Campers are the worst at this.they crawl on the left thinking they are doing a favour, then veer back onto the road without warning.no indication either way.
jeffqv,
Nov 10, 7:15pm
Silly me, I missed that bit!
smac,
Nov 10, 7:33pm
That's taken from truck height (ie their camera is mounted on a pole on the roof), same view in a car! Also, no intersection on that stretch! Just asking cause there's heaps showing on the map and I can't tell where that stretch is.If so, bummer. Would be interesting to see what the roading planner dudes would say if asked.seems to bug you, so have you asked!
electromic,
Nov 10, 7:55pm
Yep I always pull over when towing or driving a slow vehicle. I have been stuck behind a campervan on state highway two, I was car 28 and there was many more behind me. Only one car passed and they got a ticket. We were in a car fast enough to pass the lot too.
patiki1,
Nov 10, 8:15pm
Thats when you need a turbo or a v8.
ema1,
Nov 10, 10:59pm
Bugger it all I'd far sooner fly over long distances, and leave the silly beggars on the ground to sort themselves out. Dead right there are some crazy buggers out there for sure ! Never been tempted to go on holidays at the busy holiday time of the year,too busy usually when all the other leeming's go on theirs and thank god I don't going by some of the stories you read and hear about. Quiet times are when I go on vacation.a proper vacation. I just don't get it .when campers etc go from cities etc and end up in holiday camps which places the folks in them in closer proximity.just plain daft I reckon.Nah not for this kid.
ema1,
Nov 10, 11:17pm
Another thing I tend to see as well, city folk for some reason seem to go "Nuts" on country roads for some reason especially in holiday times and particularly during our southern ski season, probably a carry over of impatient tendency in city driving you know the "rip shit and bust" thing .got to be there before the other guy type thing. I'd far sooner take a while longer on the road .that way you aren't going to tire as quick and also be more assured of getting to where you are going to .in one piece. Far sooner spend 30 mins or longer over a long driveand remain alert more so rather than busting your guts and tiring yourself out to an unsafe degree to get to where you're going to. That's what I call a "No tomorrow mentality !" pity it's all too common in this country in a high percentage of our drivers. Things could be on the improve though as the latest road toll report so far this year to date shows a marked decrease in fatalities compared to this time last year.heard that on the radio yesterday. Nor sure if it's good luck or good management actually going by some of the fool things I see in my travels and going by some of the examples mentioned on here!
richardmayes,
Nov 11, 5:19am
Some of us 'Lemmings' kinda HAVE to take our holidays when the children are off school.
You're right though we are all complete idiots and prefer the company of our own kind.
mrfxit,
Nov 11, 5:21am
Yep plenty of crazys about this year. Nearly got done twice yesterday by impatient ppl.
kazbanz,
Nov 11, 8:33am
What EXACTLY is the problem with someone who is driving completely legally! Maybee they have realised that its easier on the nerves to just wait for a passing bay. Maybee they also realise that the time saved overtaking willy nilly is so small that its just not woth the hassle. OR maybee they have realised that life is short and don't want to make it even shorter by being involved in a big crash.
smac,
Nov 11, 8:47am
The point being made here is that they are not driving legally. If they are following (for example) at between 80-90 they have to leave a gap of 32m, plenty of room to move into if you should choose to do so. But few do.
macgor,
Nov 11, 9:57am
The sad thing is I saw a NZ Driving instructor giving just that instruction on TV a few years back. "touch the brake first then everyone following will know you're going to do something". Hopefully he has found a new job by now.
therafter1,
Nov 11, 10:26am
Why does he require a new job ! . if you are stopping, slowing or turning you are required to give 3 seconds warning to following traffic . for some unknown reason people think the 3 seconds warning only applies to turning. It makes sense to me as a flash of the brake lights will alert me to the fact that something else is possibly going to happen next.
therafter1,
Nov 11, 10:28am
What is ???highly illegal??? !
mm12345,
Nov 11, 11:06am
eff 'em. They got two choices:Overtake in a dumb place where if there's oncoming traffic, the only thing I could do to save the idiots is to run off the road myself, or they can get the message.
therafter1,
Nov 11, 1:20pm
Nobody needs to run off, or be run off the road, you are legally obligated to leave sufficient space for passing vehicles to slot into should they so desire !
hamhonda,
Nov 11, 1:22pm
Because when you put your foot on the brake your car has an instant reaction, giving following traffic less time to react, when you indicate before braking it warns traffic of your actions BEFORE your car slows down! Pretty obvious really
therafter1,
Nov 11, 1:31pm
Where did I say apply the brakes ! . your brake lights should activate long before the brakes take effect, while they do in my cars/bikes . then again maybe I just use my head and give a little consideration to others, something that is sadly absent on this countries roads, which along with a lot of very obvious incompetence is probably a major part of the problems.
This message board and threads like this continually demonstrate that there are many that THINK they know what they are doing out there on the roads, when in actual facts their posts indicate that THEY DO NOT know what they are doing out there http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2004/0427/latest/DLM303071.html
mm12345,
Nov 11, 1:34pm
I'd never not leave space.Not sure what you're on about.
hamhonda,
Nov 11, 1:50pm
therafter1 wrote: Where did I say apply the brakes ! . your brake lights should activate long before the brakes take effect, while they do in my cars/bikes .
"The sad thing is I saw a NZ Driving instructor giving just that instruction on TV a few years back. "touch the brake first then everyone following will know you're going to do something". Hopefully he has found a new job by now."
The reason he said hopefully he has new job!Instructor had said touch brakes first!
hamhonda,
Nov 11, 1:54pm
[your brake lights should activate long before the brakes take effect, while they do in my cars/bikes .
And how do your brake lights activate long before brakes take effect! Have your vehicles all got dodgey brakes lol. Theres a switch on the brake pedal that activates the lights when you put your foot on the pedal, so the lights activate at the SAME time as pressure is applied to the brakes.
wrong2,
Nov 11, 7:04pm
since when has obeying the legal speed limit become a justification to ignore those around you on the road !
the problem is : long lines of traffic crawling along at less than the speed i wish to travel
the problem is in jumping past all these slower people - it becomes a hassle & potentially dangerous when people refuse to leave a gap
they want to follow close - but they dont want to pass
its like its become a "crime" to use the throttle & overtake. the painted lines on the road seem to be able to override their judgement & decision making abilitys
therafter1,
Nov 13, 2:09pm
I must have oddball vehicles then, because the brake lights on all of them activate before the brakes start to take effect.
Can I suggest that one dark night you conduct a little experiment yourself.
When you pass a reflective sign on the roadside of any description (corner chevrons are really good) but any will do, try lightly depressing the brake pedal whilst watching for the sign to illuminate. Please note that I have said 'lightly depress', not just stuff your foot onto the pedal as 90% seem to do !
After you have done that come back into the thread and tell me what happened first, brakes or brake lights.
gadgetman,
Nov 23, 8:23pm
It is the second car which causes the queues not the first one.
r15,
Nov 23, 10:27pm
it could be said though that the first car is not in the queue, and that the others are queue-ing to become the first car, therefore making the 2nd car in the line the first car in the queue
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