NZ: Behind the times.

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gunhand, Jun 11, 5:05pm
You do realise you are probably tring to get through to people who associate there XBOX or Playstation with the real world.

wrong2, Jun 11, 5:10pm
pretty weak

what can a person with no high speed experience be able to say about said speed that wasnt baloney !

gunhand, Jun 11, 5:25pm
There are a few roads around the country were I would fully support a limit of 120kph but not on much of state HW1 thats for sure. Maybe some of the canturbury plains but even then you couldnt maintain it due to traffic flow trucks etc.and up central there are some that would. Alot of NZ roads are of poor standerd and covered in cow shit, pea gravel, diesel, slik tar, off camber corners and are quite narrow. I would want more than a 4" painted line between myself and others travelling at 120kph. And of course if it went to 120 people would then moan that 130kph was only 10kph above the limit and an unfair cop. They do it now. As you may well know I ride large capacity motorcycles and there are very few roads were 120kph is complety safe due to above reasons. I know some very good roads were 160kph would be quite safe on the right day on a bike.
NZ just is not ready for it with there poor attitude toward cars speed and each other.

johnf_456, Jun 11, 5:31pm
Totally, there is no need to up the speeds when the drivers, cars and roads are not upto it.

gofer0007, Jun 11, 5:33pm
You hit the nail on the head.Teaching to drive on a Play Station 1 and 2 then getting the right to drive at 15 is just plain stupid.pump it to 17 for the learners and 18 for the full and away you go.

roys351, Jun 11, 5:37pm
surely in a small country like ours we dont realy need a faster limit you can get to most places in one island easily in a day if you want to go further its proberly cheeper to fly

gunhand, Jun 11, 5:46pm
True, where is it everyone needs to be in such a hurry. If you do a 500km trip at 100kph and then 120kph I can just about say that you will get there in the same times due to traffic, trucks, towns, cities, etc etc. Plus the gas you waste barreling up to 120 all the time then on the brakes and off to 120 again. How many times has some yob past you at god knows what spped and disapeared into the distance while making dangerous passing manovers! And then2 hours later you catch them up sitting at lights or behind 4 trucks. makes me laugh every time. They get no where fast.

johnf_456, Jun 11, 5:49pm
Tell me about it gunhand, very common in auckland they are lucky if they get to the next set of lights 10 seconds faster and you are behind them.

taipan4, Jun 11, 6:31pm
I travel to work 13k on a100kph road(at 100kph) which crosses state hiway 1 at a compulsory stop, and am regularly passed by drivers that get to the compulsory stop15 seconds earlier than I do all they are achieving is higher fuel usagego figure

toxicgreen., Jun 11, 9:56pm
From 1978 nissan made a great 2.8L single cam 6 by 2 valve .L28 . (america got turbo) Toyota immediatly made twin cammed 4 valved and turboed 2.8LThe toyota was a rush job and was no better than the the old 2valve nissan.Both cars injected. Off the mark my but

pollymay, Jun 11, 10:24pm
$20 says at 15 I drove better than most 40 year olds having already done a seasons racing and towed the boat etc at the bach. I HAD to drive at 16, my mum lost her licence to DUI and I had to do all the shopping and junk for a bit as well as drive to school. pick up stuff for my dad and loads of other things.

You can pick person by person who can and can't drive very easily but they just hand them out here anyway with no compulsory skid training, short course on car control or even hectic traffic. They don't even test you on a multilane highway just around backroads indicating and stuff with mostly no one around usually, plain stupid cause what are you meant to prove! You can press the pedals and use a blinky orange light stalk for 20 minutes! Wow that prepares you for the world, not

sr2, Jun 11, 11:01pm
It's a bit trap to equate car handling skills only with what makes a safe driver on public roads. After many years of being involved in motorsport I hate to admit that the skills that make you fast in competition do not necessarily make you a good road driver, I know a number of very good race drivers who are shockers behind the wheel on the public roads! Bottom line is that good driving is all about good risk management; car control skill is only one of the many skills that make you a safe driver.

wrong2, Jun 12, 3:38pm
age is no restriction to ability

if you think otherwise, go to your local go kart track next race meet

wrong2, Jun 12, 3:40pm
the differeance is your a deluded nana (& your not alone in the brainwashing stakes)

120 is nothing - its perfectly safe & completely controllable on most of our nations highways

klrider, Jun 12, 3:40pm
Riiiiiigggggggght

wrong2, Jun 12, 3:41pm
i see you have no experience in anything modern

go on believeing old heapscope on the roads like new stuff - i couldnt care less

wrong2, Jun 12, 3:46pm
i got around a lot of NZ at double the speed limit

the roads are not the cause of crashes - corners dont jump out at you & catch you by surprise. driving is a mental exercise & a lot of crashes are due to the incorrect mindset

whilst our roads are fine at 120, the average kiwi is turning into a useless sack of cotton wool

when the revolution comes, the first people up against the wall ought to be the H&S mob

klrider, Jun 12, 3:50pm
120 is dangerous when the limit is 100 and that the rest of the traffic is keeping to that. Even for your narrow mind you should be able to see that it all depends on the road, traffic flow and driver ability. There may be times when 120 isnt dangerous, but plenty when it is, so making a general statement that 120 is ok is plain stupid. Seems your reality is restricted to a very tiny unrealistic world.

wrong2, Jun 4, 10:10am
yeah - i havent thought this thru at all & im advocating doing 120 regardless of any other circumstance

im totally not "getting" it