Overriding ALL of this, is the finality of the MAXIMUM legal road speed permitted by NON emergency vehicles/services
mrfxit,
Apr 17, 11:32am
Emergency service vehicles are an exception to the domestic rule governing the general public. Bus's /trucks etc etc are a vehicle specific ruling
johnf_456,
Apr 17, 11:35am
Thats a bit fast for a bus full of kids with no seatbelts. Just do your best to the law allows and let people go just like I do when towing.
mrfxit,
Apr 17, 11:37am
Pedantically MPH or KPH
johnf_456,
Apr 17, 11:39am
100 Kph, max speed in good driving conditions.
saxman99,
Apr 17, 11:52am
Just a comment about the terminology for the inside lane / outside lane argument:I read an article where a lady had done a quick survey asking a bunch of people which lane was inside and which was outside and it was an almost perfect 50/50 split as to how people interpret the names.And of course both groups insisted they were the ones who were right.
This is why official terminology simply refers to Lane 1, Lane 2, Lane 3 etc.Lane 1 is always next to the curb.
mrfxit,
Apr 17, 11:57am
Choccy fish prezzy for you. *********
mrfxit,
Apr 17, 12:00pm
Yep, but that confusion has come about because of NZ's minimal amount of multi lane roads compared to other countrys. Compared to them, we are only infants in the time line of driving on multi lane roads.
saxman99,
Apr 17, 12:05pm
Yes well, some people just can't be helped.
Us musos are OK for most of them, we can count to four.
johnf_456,
Apr 17, 12:10pm
Has for flashing head lights that is not on, unless they are in the right lane going slower than left. Keep left unless passing. As the speed limit is a max speed not the required speed you must do, which is what people forget, time and time again. It is the max speed in good conditions.
If you do go slower just be courteous, take a chill pill while driving. Most people need to relax out there, not you.
johnf_456,
Apr 17, 12:12pm
Two please
johnf_456,
Apr 17, 12:31pm
I forget to add keep left and keep left unless passing. But I have mentioned it before so I thought you would know.
As for flashing if im doing 90k towing and you come up behind me flashing I wil not speed up on a single lane road. I keep left unless passing on a two lane road and if not passing il be in the left lane, keeping left.
Following keep left, I have to do this often since I do a lot of towing below the speed limit so I keep the peace out their. By keeping left unless passing and general keep left I do not see why you need to flash me. If im keeping left tough
mrfxit,
Apr 17, 12:48pm
With the proviso's as outlined above re: max legal speed & available room
johnf_456,
Apr 17, 12:51pm
Cool no problem.
asa50,
Apr 17, 12:57pm
If someone makes a reasonable attempt to keep left then its fine with me, if the road is narrow and windy I just suck it in drop the windows and listen to some tunes. Keeping left, is courteous and safe, I would rather a hot head get past me than be up my date. In Europe failure to keep to the outer=slower lane is not much less of a crime than eating babies. To the individuals that pull to the left I say thanks and often give a wave. To those that gravitate to the center lane as soon as entering a deserted motorway, self righteousness and a speedo less than 101km/h does not mean you are safe or immune from an accident (you are most likely putting your self in harms way)
therafter1,
Apr 17, 3:36pm
Speed speed speed speed speed, what are you on about, only John and Mrfxit seem to be on about speed in order to attempt to justify their incorrect stance. Most posters (other than the odd tongue in cheek post) are not about advocating speed. What we are talking about is ignorant swine's clogging the outside lane simply because they want to, or because they don't know any better. I will say again, we are just normal road users, not policeman, if somebody comes up behind us and we are in the outside lane then they are obviously travelling faster than us. Their speed is not relevant, and what our speedo's tell us is not relevant neither, there are a number of reasons why they may be travelling faster than us and it is not our right to become judge jury and executioner on the basis of the fact that we are presently travelling in a 100kph restricted zone and our speedometer (or in car GPS or whatever) is telling us that we are presently travelling at the posted limit. It is about common courtesy and the rules of the road, the rules state that unless various factors exist you must keep left. It doesn't matter how many lanes there are, there can be 20 of the bloody things, left is left. So if there are none of the various factors present and you are travelling in the outside lane and someone catches up to you, you are obligated under the rules to indicate left and move to the left in order not to impede their progress. It IS NOT over to you to glance at your speedo/GPS or whatever and determine that due to the fact that YOU believe that you are presently travelling at what YOU believe to be the present limit YOU do not have to go anywhere, because you do, apart from the fact that there is no logical reason why you are out there anyway when any one of the rest of the inside lanes are available to you.
And as usual John heads off on one of his tangents and starts blabbering on about travelling on 100kph limited dual carriageways towing a trailer whereby his speed limit is 90K's and why should he have to do this that or the other thing, because other than driving in a courteous considerate manner he doesn't have to do this that or the other thing as he is talking about an entirely different situation that has no relevance whatsoever to the topic under discussion !
As regards what Saxman has said in relation to there being confusion as to what is the inside and what is the outside lane. All I can say is that it is a serious concern and is yet another indictment on this countries useless
jamstew,
Apr 17, 4:07pm
Bloody well said
aktow,
Apr 18, 1:07am
e there is no fast lane in nz. each lane is classified seperate and thats way you cannot be done on the motorway for not keeping left.
johnf_456,
Apr 18, 6:15am
Learn to read, how many times have I said in this thread I keep left in general and keep left unless passing. Why is this so hard to understand and you feel the need to mention me specifically.
Plain and simple if there is a 2 lane road and no one is in the left lane I'll be in the left or lane 1 keeping left and if I need to pass I'll move right to pass then when I am not passing I will move back simple enough for you. I would of thought so. Please let me know if this is not simple enough yet for you to understand before making up crap.
therafter1,
Apr 18, 6:39am
+1 The fast lane is more known as the speedsters lane in the real world and speedster don't like anyone using it because they can't drive at 120. Provided you keep left unless passing it is very legal.
Why whats the problem, I keep left on the road, obey every road rule, courteous. If you want to speed that is no elses problem but you're own. Keep left unless passing now is that not the rules of the road!
Note I didn't say it that, I was just grinning to someone elses. But really if you want to speed go for gold but don't get shitty at other drivers who follow the rules of the road. I'm not going to stop you, you will get nabbed at some point.
There was no need to mention my name and use it to have a go, just because you can. I simply obey keep left unless passing, if anyone wants to speed thats there problem. The sooner they get booked the better.
What a load of dribble going on here, with all these different interpretations why have 2 lanes lol. Simply put its more the speedsters that get upset about this.
No need to be abusive pal, what behaviour. Why not keep it constructive! Simple keep left unless passing for me but in saying that it is more speedsters that have a cry about it. I am happy to wait and pass safely if someone hold me up, so I dont care. But I keep left unless passing so flipping read.
100 Kph, max speed in good driving conditions.
Has for flashing head lights that is not on, unless they are in the right lane going slower than left. Keep left unless passing. As the speed limit is a max speed not the required speed you must do, which is what people forget, time and time again. It is the max speed in good conditions.
As for flashing if im doing 90k towing and you come up behind me flashing I wil not speed up on a single lane road. I keep left unless passing on a two lane road and if not passing il be in the left lane, keeping left.
Following keep left, I have to do this often since I do a lot of towing below the speed limit so I keep the peace out their. By keeping left unless passing and general keep left I do not see why you need to flash me. If im keeping left tough
What cr*p have I "made up" in these posts of yours. I know my literacy level isn't that great, but I'm quite sure that I can see the odd reference to SPEED in your posts !
johnf_456,
Apr 18, 6:41am
Yes the odd difference to speed has it is speedsters that get upset get upset about it more than people who are happy to sit back and do whatever speed. Speed does not mean I fail to keep left! There is two topics in this thread keeping left and speeding. But on the other hand I
However if you don't want me to keep left, then your welcome to say keep right HAHA (just kidding)
therafter1,
Apr 18, 6:57am
Ummmmmmm, the topic is at post # 1 !
The references to speed and speeding have been made by various other posters including yourself subsequent to that post !
So where exactly have I "made up this cr*p" that you have referred to in your post @ # 107!
johnf_456,
Apr 18, 6:59am
What we are talking about is ignorant swine's clogging the outside lane simply because they want to, or because they don't know any better. I will say again, we are just normal road users, not policeman, if somebody comes up behind us and we are in the outside lane then they are obviously travelling faster than us. Their speed is not relevant, and what our speedo's tell us is not relevant neither, there are a number of reasons why they may be travelling faster than us and it is not our right to become judge jury and executioner on the basis of the fact that we are presently travelling in a 100kph restricted zone and our speedometer (or in car GPS or whatever) is telling us that we are presently travelling at the posted limit. It is about common courtesy and the rules of the road, the rules state that unless various factors exist you must keep left. It doesn't matter how many lanes there are, there can be 20 of the bloody things, left is left.
and
apart from the fact that there is no logical reason why you are out there anyway when any one of the rest of the inside lanes are available to you.
This comment since this is directed at mrfixt and me and I keep left as previously quoted.
therafter1,
Apr 18, 7:12am
Here we go round the merry go round, the merry go round, the merry go round, on a gloomy April morningggggggggggg !
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