Well said & probably couldn't have put it much better myself. it's what i do as well.
johnf_456,
Apr 18, 7:23am
well read the comments properly :)
mrfxit,
Apr 18, 7:23am
Again, another well stated msg.
mrfxit,
Apr 18, 7:35am
It's a simple statement of MAX legal road speed for NON emergency vehicles. For us common folk, it's simply NOT LEGAL to exceed 100kph on any road (conditions permitting) thats marked for the max legal speed limit permitted in NZ. There are NO roads in NZ that are legally marked in excess of 100kph.
NOW . The points are that . IF I am doing . 1: 100kph in the far right hand lane (center of road) 2: All lanes to my left are full 3: I am passing or about to pass someone in the left lane beside me
* Someone has come up behind me thats NOT an emergency vehicle
Then why would I have to pull over to make room for that vehicle when theres clearly . A: No safe room in the left lane B: I am approaching along side another car in the left lane
therafter1,
Apr 18, 8:10am
Crikey dick, I am not disputing that !
The discussion relates to when those factors are not present and dawdlers are dawdling up the outside lane refusing to move over for anyone that catches up to them, because THEY feel that they have a right to be there by virtue of the sole fact that THEY believe as a consequence of THEIR speed readout that THEY are travelling at the legal speed limit for the area, so therefore THEY do not have to move to an inside lane to allow the vehicle that has caught up to them through !
As stated in the regulation, unless any of the other factors are present you are required to keep left (1) A driver, when driving, must at all times drive as near as practicable to the left side of the roadway unless this rule otherwise provides.
The discussion relates to the u-tube link at post # 1 . perhaps you need to watch the link again and you will notice that there is ample room in the right lanes for the dawdler !
There appears to be a multitude of people dawking up and down this countries roads playing policeman on the basis of THEIR interpretation of the road rules, and that in tandem with this half witted *555 horse manure is causing problems for normal rule aware and rule abiding motorists that simply want to drive on this countries roads without having their progress impeded by some ignorant arrogant inconsiderate galoot interfering with their journey because they are half wits that think they know the rules of the road when they very obviously DO NOT !
mrfxit,
Apr 18, 8:17am
I did & agreed with the cop, but also allowed for other possible reasons for the cop doing that. .
mrfxit,
Apr 18, 8:22am
There also appears to be a few here that consider anyone in the right lane to be a blimin pain & HAVE TO SHIFT OVER, even IF that slower vehicle is already doing the legal max speed (100kph) regardless of what the traffic around/beside them is like. Met a few like that on jaffaland roads (hell, even seen a few in Hams)
mrfxit,
Apr 18, 8:30am
Have to wonder about what speed all the other vehicles were doing & WHY the cop was traverling faster. Theres a few unknown factors in that video depending on what part of it you look at.
mrfxit,
Apr 18, 8:33am
Yep agree but theres also the others that consider it their god given right to travel at whatever speed they want regardless of it being legal or not & anybody in THEIR way MUST get out of the way.
Goes both ways . ;-(
gunhand,
Apr 18, 8:34am
Well I watched the video again a couple of times and all I seen was a cop tail gating a car that was moving just as fast and in fact faster at times than all the other traffic visable at the time. He then turned on his lights for whatever reason. The car then moved to the far right lane ready to pull over I guess. The cop then turned off his lights of carried on. It was only tthen the car slowed up probably wondering what the hell just happened. The only real crime I see was the cop tail gateing, unless something happened before what we seen and on that we cant speculate. And if it was such a crime why didnt the cop talk with the driver! We have no idea how fast anyone was moving in that clip. The only other twat in this appears to be the camara operator who seemed to think there was a high speed chase going on and thinking what happened was F#@kin awsume. Thats what I seen.
mrfxit,
Apr 18, 8:43am
On the surface . yep agree . I did note other possible reasons as I clarifiedabove
mrfxit,
Apr 18, 9:02am
Certainlly not putting my self out for some twit thats tailgating me at 100kph on a busy road.
Seen a few where I have let them go to simply be held up later in accident related traffic & taken some other poor bugger out with them.
johnf_456,
Apr 18, 9:03am
The rafter take a chill pill
therafter1,
Apr 18, 9:03am
Have you read the comments from the people that possibly live in the country of origin of the video and obviously have some idea as to the coppers motives !
As regards the soundtrack on the video, the narrator isn't suggesting anything at all and is obviously making tongue in cheek remarks to whoever else may be in the vehicle.
My interpretation of the video is that regardless of the speed of all of the other traffic, the 'transgressor', and the copper, their rules are such that unless there were other factors present (such as unavailable inside lane space) then that particular vehicle was not supposed to be in that lane. The copper had already tried various measures (possibly/probably illegal as well) to bring it to the transgressors attention that he/she was not supposed to be there and ultimately resorted to the use of beacons and sirens to shift the transgressor from the outside lane.
I would hazard a guess that the transgressor was applying the old "I'm doing the legal speed limit horse manure so therefore I don't have to move" . YOU DO HAVE TO MOVE.
gunhand,
Apr 18, 9:08am
That works very well actually. One sunny day couple years back the wife and I were way up top of the South Island on the bike trundling along on excellent roads at reasonable clip (yes speeding) when we passed a flash lateish model jap car(celica or simalier) at speed. Well he couldnt have that and after abit over took me at over 160kph plus. I thought to my self that he prob has a small penis and needed to show his girly in the car that no bike was better than his car. I let him go as I wasnt racing him or anyone else. He diapeared into the distance and low and behold a few Kms latter a cop had him. I waved as I went passed as it prob would have been me. So thankyou over taking small penis person. Cops do turn up in the middle of no where LOL. But yes useing a faster car as a bait car works well.
therafter1,
Apr 18, 9:08am
Gee, I hope that's not a personal attack ! . you don't make those remember.
Try confining yourself to the subject Einstein . Oh, that's right, you can't, you have to fly off on irrelevant tangents in order to attempt to justify your usual incorrect and ill informed stance !
I don't need chill pills, so if you are somehow assuming/interpreting from my posts that chill pills are required, then as per usual you are INCORRECT !
crzyhrse,
Apr 18, 9:08am
Yes. Just as parking on a broken yellow line is against the law even if there's nobody driving down the street.
gunhand,
Apr 18, 9:13am
I would hazard a guess that the transgressor was applying the old "I'm doing the legal speed limit horse manure so therefore I don't have to move" . YOU DO HAVE TO MOVE.
Quotetherafter1 (15 )
All that may be correct but can you tell me WHY if you are doing the correct limit you have to move. Apart from emergancy services. Whats happening in that lane that requires you to move. Speeding maybe! And its just a question.
johnf_456,
Apr 18, 9:14am
It was cracking a joke and my statements are not tangents people mis read them like you. So I have to try explain over and over because peoplle like you cant understand it.
So keeping left is in correct now how many times have I told you my stance. But you are yet to understand it after four times plus. I get tired of repeating myself for people who cant read.
crzyhrse,
Apr 18, 9:16am
No - we can see everyone is doing a similar speed. What you were presuming is that they were doing the speed limit.
mrfxit,
Apr 18, 9:18am
IF . theres SAFE room in the next lane beside you. IF . you are not, yourself, passing another vehicle IF . that lane isn't specifically marked for where you are intending to travel.
therafter1,
Apr 18, 9:19am
johnf_456 wrote: So I have to try explain over and over because peoplle like you cant understand it.
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A first, I agree !
mrfxit,
Apr 18, 9:20am
DUH. well yea & I stated that as well
gunhand,
Apr 18, 9:21am
Wouldnt want many of you lot as a witness lol., most assume and presume they know what happened is happening or is about to happen.
crzyhrse,
Apr 18, 9:21am
People that think like you are generally unaware that their speedometers are inaccurate and read high from factory.
Also, because it's not only the law, it's the courteous thing to do. It only becomes and issue and irritates people that don't look in their mirrors anywhere near enough because they don't see the other vehicle approaching then become all high and mighty about it. I'd say everyone in here arguing that they don't need to move over because they're doing the speed limit is exactly that sort of oblivious driver. Everyone who is saying they do need to move over is observant, courteous and considerate.
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