Jazz and VW's. Jazz you will remember the mint condition 2005 mk 5 golf i had bloody nice car drove well and in very origina

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carstauranga001, Feb 13, 11:33pm
Jazz you will remember the mint condition 2005 Mk 5 Golf I had. Bloody nice car, drove well and in very original condition with low KM's. Well yesterday the lady I sold it to comes in to ask if she's doing something wrong as the wipers arn't going, and the left front door central lock is playing up. Long story short needs wiper motor and door lock actuator. These faults are uncommon on the cars you say are purchased by sheep just because the advertising is better. In reality this is a great example of why we car dealers like Japanese cars better. I'm puting it right for her, no arguement there but things like this occur far too often on Euros. I think I'll stick with the Jap product.
foxdonut, Feb 13, 11:36pm
Yeah. Jap cars never break down or suffer any faults at all huh.

That's why everyone drives a Mitsubishi GTO or has a Nissan 300ZX as a back up car.

Totally faultless - every last one of them.
carstauranga001, Feb 13, 11:39pm
I didn't say that. This Golf isn't a sports car which has been thrashed either, it's a mint car which appears to have had an easy life. So why should it give these electrical faults when the equivalent Japanese car dosn't!

I've never had such faults with a 2005 Corolla for example.
foxdonut, Feb 13, 11:53pm
Yes. Corollas never have electrical problems. That why this website doesn't exist.

http://www.toyotaproblems.com/Corolla/

Oh snap! It actually does.

This s a pointless thread. You sold a dud car. Shit happens.
carstauranga001, Feb 14, 12:29am
Actually I sold a bloody good car which Jazz himself drove and agreed it was good. Fact is that these defects occure far too often on Euros and not much on Jappas.
foxdonut, Feb 14, 12:41am
I'll wager my left nut you sell a lot more Japanese than European cars and "notice" more faults on Euro's because of it.

Mate, its your business. If you don't want to sell VW's then don't, but naming Jazz specifically because the door mech and wiper motor developed a fault after you sold it just makes this sound like you're trying to shift the 'blame' over to him.
carstauranga001, Feb 14, 12:48am
LOL, it's not his fault. I'm just saying that all his positive promotion of the VW product goes out the window when reality strikes. So calm down. Now, what are some other peoples opinions on this!
mugenb20b, Feb 14, 12:52am
Exactly, although a lot of people will deny this. The Japs have got their shit sorted when it comes to things that shouldn't really fail, like electrical stuff. Jap stuff still fails from time to time, but very rarely compared to Euro cars of the same era.
akaniva, Feb 14, 1:22am
Exactly, it's not Jap crap these days its Eurocrap. VW's are highly over-rated and not that well designed either. My friend's late model Golf that I drove amazed me from the point of view of bad design as the bright trim around the centre dash area reflected in the windscreen so much so that I wondered if the designers had actually ever driven the car in sunshine. It was really distracting and a safety hazard I felt. It handled like a marshmallow on tricky corners at speed too. Another friend had a modern VW with that many problems it wasn't funny, and serious problems too like all the engine seals needing replacing twice, the radiator etc etc.

The only VW I have had was a '54 Kombi barn-door one and that was totally reliable, a nice old bus to trundle along in on its 16" wheels and could fit 3 old-school motocross bikes too.
gedo1, Feb 14, 1:46am
We've had 3 Golfs - first was second hand and was faultless for the 18 months we had it.So we then bought a new one and had endless problems with it - mainly electrical and gearbox.All GTis and I have to say I love the performance (Actually they've been my wife's cars not mine and she definitely does not thrash them). We thought perhaps this was a faulty one and thus after a year bought the third ( a 2010 model).Similar problems although gearbox fine - but also now interior trim loose or falling off.All fixed by dealers but we were cured and my wife bought a Toyota Yaris R in end of 2010 and it has been great.Not the same handling as he GTi but totally reliable.My car is a Lexus and I like it.Just won't buy another Euro - pity since thy could be great
franc123, Feb 14, 2:01am
At my work we've go one of those on the yard at the mo, which had apparantely had suffered from complete failure of the front wipers and washers. After checking the usualstuff like fuses and relays and motors it turns out that the bonnet ajar switch was faulty. Some propellerhead goober at VW decided to make it an operating strategy of the module that controls the wipers to disable them if it senses the bonnet is open. Go figure. And no the arms don't foul on the back of the bonnet when its open either.
akaniva, Feb 14, 2:15am
Another example of inexplicably dumb design.
carstauranga001, Feb 14, 2:17am
Thanks, will have sparky check that. He has the car overnight awaiting parts.
thejazzpianoma, Feb 14, 3:37am
Beat me to it!

Fools lots of people, I have even seen the vehicle inspection guys doing first reg inspections confused by that one and had to point it out.

Switch is at the front by the radiator from memory, sometimes a spray of WD40 is all they need.
thejazzpianoma, Feb 14, 3:40am
Oh and as for VW's failing.
A sample of one providing conclusive evidence. you should do PR for the Police carstauranga.

And. far from mint, it was a 7 year old import with excessive wear on the drivers window switches and someone had put some monkey wheels on it. Tidy, yes, mint no.

If you say the same BS enough times you start to believe it yourself. The Golf has a very similar failure rate to the Toyota Avensis. no one comes on moaning about those.
richardmayes, Feb 14, 12:17pm
Hmmm.

Of course you couldn't and shouldn't cover the whole German motor industry in mud based on one car needing a few running repairs (albeit unusual ones that it seems couldn't be due to owner abuse.)

But I remember in Auckland in about 2004-2005, noticing a surprising number of brand-new Golfs / Passats you sat behind in traffic would have one tail light not working. Right about the time the tail lights started being really big colourful LED items that really grab your attention. I remember at the time being quite astonished by that. You'd almost think the electrics on new VWs were by Lucas.

(But then, as Jazz says, if I'd seen a Caldina with a bulb out would I have even thought twice about it!)
unbeatabull, Feb 14, 12:20pm
Just cause you brought my car into it, my ZX is 22 years young now, and not a single thing has gone wrong in the electrics, still has original everything. Can't say that about all the stuff I work on at work though!
mugenb20b, Feb 14, 12:20pm
And why do you think that would be!
carstauranga001, Feb 14, 12:23pm
LOL, So all you could fault was the window switch imprints were worn! This is another common fault which many have. Why can't VW make the white markings more durable. And as for the wheels, real nice aftermarket 18s that suited the car well I (and the new owner) thought.

Thanks for heads up on the switch though mate.
r15, Feb 14, 1:10pm
isn't there only a few dozen of those even sold!They were overpriced and underpowered with mondeo feeling suspension and enough fly by wire delay to rival a colorado.

That's probably why.
carmedic, Feb 14, 1:22pm
The last 10 window regulators I fitted.
VW Polo
BMW E36
Audi A4
VW Passat
BMW X3
Holden Commodore VZ
Ford KA
BMW E36
Nissan Primera
VW Golf
Note: I do not specialise in Eurotrash neither is it the majority of my work
johnf_456, Feb 14, 2:00pm
The thejazzpianoma man will be devastated
ralphdog1, Feb 14, 4:03pm
Seeing it is one of those pick on Jazz days, Jazz can you enlighten us to why the wipers are inhibited when the bonnet is open (bearing in mind we have been told that they do not foul the bonnet when it is open) !
thejazzpianoma, Feb 14, 4:28pm
I wasn't going to bother opening that can of worms in the presence of so many knuckle dragging trolls, but since you asked.

Regular wipers affect fuel economy when parked (thats why ecomodders delete them) to get around this VW tuck their's right under the lip of the bonnet.

Now, I can't say I have actually disabled the inhibitor switch and measured for myself but I am pretty sure that if you could open the bonnet with the wipers running they would hit the bonnet at some point as it is raised. ( I suspect once the bonnet is just raised a few inches)
From memory the wipers do indeed look like they might clear once the bonnet is fully open.
thejazzpianoma, Feb 14, 4:28pm
I wasn't going to bother opening that can of worms in the presence of so many knuckle dragging trolls, but since you asked.

Regular wipers affect fuel economy when parked (thats why ecomodders delete them) to get around this VW tuck their's right under the lip of the bonnet.

Now, I can't say I have actually disabled the inhibitor switch and measured for myself but I am pretty sure that if you could open the bonnet with the wipers running they would hit the bonnet at some point as it is raised. ( I suspect once the bonnet is just raised just a few inches)
From memory the wipers do indeed look like they might clear once the bonnet is fully open.

Take a look carefully at the pics and I think you will see what I mean: You need to look at the hinges and see how they would open.

http://flushstance.ccwheel.com/wp-content/uploads/vw_golf_classic_02.jpg http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2007/01/05/033186.4-lg.jpg

If anyone REALLY has to know for certain the next MK5 Golf is not due back at Castle Jazz for about 48 hours. I can have a look in person then if you like.