To the tough guy on the sport bike who

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therafter1, Sep 8, 10:58am
Not a worry mate, I have already heard them all. And all of the blow bums that I know that have rubbished it have been invited to compete against it in the environment that it was designed for and they have all been left with egg on their faces. In the seven years that I have owned it I have only been left behind by one car and it was a late model Porsche being driven by someone that appeared to have a death wish and it was on a road down here that is used as a Targa stage and I have a suspicion that he was doing a bit of a recce.

All the blow bums in the V8 Coons, Holden's and blah blah blah get left behind and the only place they seem to be able to compete is in a straight line. Which probably explains why they come tearing past once the twisties are exited at about a thousand miles an hour . they must be fluffy chinned berks as well lol

therafter1, Sep 8, 11:11am
Yep, a self confessed troll .lol

bellky, Sep 8, 11:12am
Haha, it's a mean looking machine alright :)

wheelmann, Sep 8, 11:29am
In regard to 1 the traffic must be slow moving traffic (or stationary). I have seen many times where a motorcycle is lane splitting on the motorway between a car and truck with a minimum of room with traffic doing in excess of 60 km/hr. Trucks seem to wander in a lane more often than cars so it would take much for a motorcyclist to end up under another vehicle.

pebbles61, Sep 8, 11:41am
I've seen plenty of bikers splitting when the traffic is doing 100km/h +. That's a bit too fast for myself, I tend to stop once the traffic gets over 60km/h. There's very little to gain for too much risk.

therafter1, Sep 8, 11:44am
Ssssssssfunny that you should say that as its nickname is The Green Meanie . because it is always being mean to berks in big engined big cars who think their personal and mechanical testosterone will win out . only to be soundly embarrassed in front of their wife and children who in many instances are in the car with them and who have had to listen to all of the testosterone laden he man horse manure prior to their self inflicted embarrassing experience.

Which probably explains why they go burning past you at a thousand miles an hour once the road straightens out . a face saving exercise in other words lol

In some cases you will maybe encounter them a little later on and they will sheepishly ask, "what is that thing !", "it's a Toyota MRS mate", "oh yeah, what size motor does it have in it !", "an 1800 mate", "really, is it turboed or supercharged !", "nah mate, just naturally aspirated with VVTI", "well it sure can go mate", "no mate, it doesn't really, but what it does do is stop and corner well with reasonable performance to boot by virtue of the fact that it only weighs 9OOkgs dry, and therein is the advantage over your behemoth".

ksam, Sep 8, 12:05pm
It seems bellky's cunning plan has worked and pushed you into the "mines bigger than yours" debate.

therafter1, Sep 8, 12:21pm
Nah, just bored, the grandies are here, the telly's on the cartoon channel, it's blowing a gale so I can't do beggar all out there as it would even wreck a small kite . and besides, I thought I would get in first at his own game to cover a few bases and give me something to do ! . It also gives any others that are drawn to my profile picture courtesy of Bellkys posts something to consider before they launch into the hair dresser cracks about a car that they have probably never even stood next to let alone driven, hair dresser cracks which as stated previously have all been heard before.

ksam, Sep 8, 12:46pm
All good, just seems to me, in your little battle with him, you've stooped to the very same thing you obviously dislike, getting labelled by the type of car you drive,

wheelmann, Sep 8, 1:10pm
And the difference between a person who does that in a car and on a bike is! More testosterone!

therafter1, Sep 8, 1:26pm
I'm a bit hard to label, but they still try. I have 3 cars, 1 motorcycle, 2 mowers and a tractor . so what am I lol. One minute I'm a cocky, then I'm the groundsman, then I'm a testosterone laden yobbo on a bike, then I'm a testosterone laden hair dresser, then I'm a commuter, then I'm a husband, father and grand father lol

therafter1, Sep 8, 1:41pm
No testosterone over doses here. I didn't say I race. Invariably I am simply driving my drive within the confines of the legal limits and catch up to them. They are usually already doing a Peter Brock/Dick Johnson impersonation for their wife and kids when a flash or two of my lights catches their attention and I politely suggest via various gesticulations that they might like to hop out of the way as they are impeding my progress lol . that's when the excitement usually starts, and I usually get to witness most of the excitement from behind which is usually followed by a huge error as a possible result of a whisker too much enthusiasm, testosterone and an apparent misplaced belief in the abilities of themselves and their vehicle.

Oh, and I always know the road, so I cheat, but don't tell them that lol

Only dicks take on vehicles that catch up to them on winding country roads, but don't tell them that neither or you will spoil my fun lol

wheelmann, Sep 8, 1:56pm
So you are slower on the straights but faster in the corners! If they are driving like they are racing you must also be travelling like you are racing. You would be pushing hard through the corners to travel with a car that is pushing hard through the corners.

therafter1, Sep 8, 2:24pm
Have you driven a car like an MR-S, MX5, S2000 or the like on a winding country road that you know and drive frequently like the Taihape Napier or the Parapara !

They are very easy to drive on roads of this nature and you do not (depending on the driver) have to do a lot of hard cornering or braking as they have the capability to take it in their stride as that is what they are designed to do and they all do it pretty well. On both of the roads that I have mentioned there is very little in the way of straights other than at the beginning and end of each road.

You cannot compare any of the above mentioned sports cars to almost 2 tonnes of Commodore or Coon on this type of road and it is invariably a no contest situation that you are aware of and the driver of the large family saloon is not.

sw20, Sep 8, 2:29pm
He was leaving him for you big boy.

asa50, Sep 8, 2:42pm
Well said, I cannot remember being held up by a bike in traffic

gunhand, Sep 8, 2:42pm
An excellent driver (ie, someone who can drive not think they can) will be better in a two ton holden/ford than someone who thinks they can drive there sports car (or any car) but it reality can't. The car may help a bit but you still gotta steer it correctly. Seen guys on the most unlikely bikes undertake/overtake guys with the knee down thinking there the ducks nuts on there ZRRCSXB RRRRs. They never stop for a yarn.

therafter1, Sep 8, 2:51pm
Hence the reason why it only happens on roads that I know, not on roads that I don't know as mentioned in a previous post.

I have been driving rural roads that I have never driven in my life before only to be caught up to by someone driving a Commodore, Coon, D4D Hilux or BT50 or the like. Anyone that takes on drivers on roads that they don't know is a dick, so consequently I simply get out of their way at the first opportunity and let them have all of the fun.

You soon get an idea of their competence level from behind and it is soon apparent that they know the road (and its vagaries) like the back of their hand.

gunhand, Sep 8, 2:54pm
For sure for sure.

kazbanz, Sep 8, 5:46pm
This entire conversation is what sucks about us NZ road users.
I love this country and that we still have the fire of competition in our bellies.
But who gives a bleeep if you are first to the next lights or if a bike rides to the front of the line.
we just have to win even if its for 5 seconds and is a 4.5mx2.0m section of tarmac.
.Innit really stupid !

sw20, Sep 8, 5:58pm
Yup. I just cruise along to work and back each day. Every day there are numpties who just have to get in front at each intersection or push in front when merging, only to catch up to them 2 minutes later when you are both stationary at the next set of lights.

dr.doolittle, Sep 8, 6:16pm
Yup, & it's all good . until he bashes your bonnet for No good reason.

bellky, Sep 8, 6:18pm
Yep, sounds like he's got (or had) an attitude problem.

extrayda, Sep 8, 7:55pm
Funny thread derail from OT to "My MRS (not missus!) can beat any V8 coon or commodore".
As for the bikes, it doesn't bother me too much the ones that lane split in crawling motorway traffic (at sensible speeds) - I move aside to let them past - they aren't causing me a problem.
The ones that zoom side to side between cars in small gaps at already 100kph seem to just have a deathwish - if they with to crash thats their call, but I'd prefer not to have to deal with the aftermath.
The ones that drive between lines of traffic (at the lights) and then pull in front of the lead car(s) and lean over in the way I do think are knobs - in effect all you are doing is pushing in, and yes, you may hold up the car behind you - if someone does it to me, I take off slowly - you can't guarantee that they will zoom off, and even if it would be their fault, I don't want to run them over (unless it's been a really shitty day - JOKE!).
Most motorcyclists are not idiots, and don't wish to become roadkill, I suspect its just that the idiots are the most visible.
No, I'm not a motorcyclist - I suspect if I was I might be one of the idiots, so probably wouldn't be around for long!

extrayda, Sep 8, 8:01pm
As for the "My MRS beats all the V8's" blah blah blah.
Sorry, but that sounds like you are exactly the type of guy you say they all are.Perhaps they should allow the MRS in to Bathurst to clean up the competition!
If you are happy driving a small green convertible, enjoy it - don't bother trying to "man it up".Who cares what other people think.
I had a mate with an MX-5, who wasn't a hairdresser or gay (honestly it's true!).It was a cool little car (bit underpowered being the original 1600 version).If I was after a little convertible I could see the appeal - sadly being 6'4" the top of the windscreen was in my line of sight, so unless I took the seat out I couldn't really drive it !
Hell I drive a people mover these days, and I know that a lot of people like to laugh at people movers.