exactly, the 2000 lt per month I use in the cropping season or the harvest season is just a couple of ticks to refund what is due back, likewise for the small commercial boats - trailered type generally but also some moored boats filled from the pump via trailer tank behind owners vehicle ( larger boats use a discounted fuel source dedicated to boats)
but note they will not be considering afuel tax to replace licence and rego revenue at this stage I'd pick they will eventually do something like this though but as a 2 tiered system - annual fee for ltnz ( data filing etc - probably about $60 per ann) and fuel tax ( approx 20c lt ) for the revenue needed for ACC and roads
skin1235,
Sep 20, 2:42pm
so far have gleaned that revenue is approx 830m ann from national fleet rego and licence fees still looking to find ann consumption lt fuel all types
johnf_456,
Sep 20, 4:53pm
Yep personal responsibility is very hard to understand for some people.
therafter1,
Sep 20, 5:22pm
Sometimes lots of things seem very hard to understand for some people lol
zephyrheaven,
Sep 20, 5:34pm
All these people crying on about other country's - please go & live in them
I will be fudged if my whole life Ive paid insane tax on diesels / ridiculous ACC levies on 8 vehicles - two of them trailers FFS - all those accidents & compensations from a simple trailer ahem
Ugh
It needs work - but 3 years for a new car WOF! Have you seen the people that drive cars off a lot brand new! Have you seen two braincells rubbing together! Bald tyres in 8 months / recall ignored for fuel system / braking system failure
Cant wait
Cars would be fine all by themselves - but they are tortured by this person at the steering wheel
therafter1,
Sep 20, 5:48pm
I thought not . spot ya later.
franc123,
Sep 20, 7:15pm
Yup I agree that aspect of the MOT's #2 proposal is flawed, while brand new cars are served up with normally a 3yr 100k warranty, it doesn't make their owners/operators, be it private, company or lease, any better than anyone else when it comes to regular inspections and scheduled maintenance. These company car "steerers" who tip gas in the back and nothing else who are doing 30-40-50k+ a year are often the worst offenders for running out of tyre tread and brake pads and doing nothing about it. I reckon scrub that bit of it and apply a 12mth WOF to ALL vehicles, in the same way that other forms of machinery have annual surveys, just because a vehicle is new it doesn't mean its necessarily more roadworthy than a much older one.
universal48,
Sep 27, 12:58pm
At a time when Government has made such good progress in reducing the road toll it??
rovercitroen,
Sep 27, 1:09pm
I don't travel big kms but a couple of times I have been glad that a 6 monthly WoF has picked up a potentially hazardous tyre split on the inside wall of a tyre where it couldn't be easily seen. I agree with franc123. A 12 monthly WoF on all vehicles would be a good compromise. Maybe it could be linked to kms travelled as well! I remember taking my MX5 for a WoF once and it had only done 385 kms since the last WoF (in 6 months)
chebry,
Sep 27, 3:14pm
That is the system in QLD & VIC in Aussie car with RWC roadworthy certificate can have registration transferred to new owner those with no RWC and little hope of obtaining one are junk it means if you buy a vehicle it is roadworthy and its up to you to maintain it
pebbles61,
Sep 27, 4:06pm
Try owning a bike lol
supernova2,
Sep 27, 8:27pm
Try this for a simple calculation.car travels 10,000k per year at a consumption rate of 10l/100k so therefore uses 1,000l of fuel.Prseent rego is say $300 so therefore to get same revenue fuel would have to increase by $0.30 per litre.In our household we have 4 cars but only 2 drivers so at present rego is $1200pa so say we do a total of 15,000k of travel on above calculation we would save about $750 per year.
All the talk about boats, mowers, chainsaws etc is a redhearing as our mower might use 20l a year - oohan increase of say $6.00Boats say 30l a trip so thats only another $9.If you can afford to buy and use a boat whats $9!
Then someone will ask about the lawnmowing contractor.Well average lawn should only use a litre or two so its going to cost no more than a $1 per lawnso in reality who cares!
supernova2,
Sep 27, 8:43pm
Now for the unrego unwof cars out there on the road.If the wof/rego is out by more than 30 days instant impound.More than a year out instant seizure and sold - no exemptions.Vehicle can't be retrieved without passing a wof and getting rego and obviously payment of towing/impound fees.If not uplifted in 30 days list on trademe/sella/wheedle or wherever and sell it - no exemptions.No fines - they aren't paid anyway.As has been said before if the driver's can't be bothered complying with the road rules let them walk.
The authorities will say it cant be done for a zillion silly reasons.Of course it can be done if they put their mind to it.The whole process could be contracted out to a triad or two.
mechnificent,
Sep 28, 9:36am
The worlds finances depend on consumption. The government is going to do it's best to foster consumption. The government is going to introduce longer warrants, allow higher charges to satisfy the inspection industry but they are going to get tougher on the standards, not to overcome the possibility that tyres can wear more in three years, but because they can justify clamping down on rust, seatbelts, general wear and tear that older cars have. and it's because they want us all to buy new cars. It's got nothing to do with safety, they have already said that car condition isn't often a factor these days. they are tossing us a red herring and a bone in the form of longer times between warrants so they can get tougher and force all the old cars off the road.
thejazzpianoma,
Sep 28, 9:48am
BTW, with regard to licensing fees being added to fuel. I think its a great idea, especially for us car enthusiasts with classics we don't drive much etc.
It should be easy for large contractors and boat owners to claim back the tax on their fuel deliveries. I think there would be a lot less abuse of the system from them than you get from people disconnecting their speedo's on Diesels at the moment.
Also, they could consider adding something to "farm fuel" that could be easily detected by an electronic "sniffer" waved near the fuel tank when cops are doing breath tests etc or even the parking wardens could do it.
I would expect there is likely something that would be detectible enough for the air breather on the tank to expose enough to pick up. Worth looking into anyway.
supernova2,
Sep 28, 11:11am
I know I'll get yelled at but why should a farmer be exempted from ACC on fuel.Any use of fuel in any form has the potential to cause an accident/injury.As thats a given why should there be any exemption from an ACC levy for any person.Booze/smokes have taxes of various forms AFAIK you can't get a refund just cause you are a particular class of user.
franc123,
Sep 28, 1:13pm
You shouldn't get yelled at because its a perfectly valid point. How many people are killed or severely injured on tractors and their implements, and quadbikes! Nuff said.Shall we talk about jetski and chainsaw users!ALL of these people are potential acc claimants.
universal48,
Sep 28, 2:19pm
One of the benefits would be individualising actual risk profiles, and we'd each pay a different rate of ACCAs it is today, the risks relating to motoring are averaged out - so if you haveagood safety and driving record, you in fact subsidise those that don't. If there was mandatory third party insurance, everyone could have an ACC rating that accurately reflected their actual risk.Worth considering!
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