A good system is in switzerland for cars and its the only country i can think off in europe whom does that . you got 1 numberplate 1 insurance and 2 cars. you got the insurance policy for both cars. the secound one is mutch cheaper because insurance knows you only crash one at the time and the plates can only be on the one car You cant drive both at the same time with a plate each. government tax is for the larger car or the one with more cc. This System could work for as mutch cars as you want Plates are as said before registered to the user of the cars not the actual vehicles they just loog the vehicle to the plate. And easy to controll as to who has insurance or not as no plates are handed out without a recipt that the car is insured.
rsr72,
Sep 20, 8:08am
Yep, clip-on plates, as only one car at a time can be driven by a driver.
toxicgreen.,
Sep 20, 10:02am
YOU so right!Always the double edge sword. I Think NZ govournment about to use a triple edge sword here tho. They are going to use WOF pricing to to obligate people to buy newer cars because the 12 to 25 year old Jap cars just keep going an going with NO maintanance. I,m driving a 1992 Nissan Sentra with 385,000 ks on it. It runs soo sweet.Bullet proof bog standard car. How the govourment sleeps at night astounds me.We are onto them !
franc123,
Sep 20, 10:40am
The attitude would change pretty quickly if we made pedestrians out of more of them, the police just need some better tools to deal with non compliant vehicles, in addition to the current pink and green sticker rules.
franc123,
Sep 20, 10:45am
Dead right, I don't believe that MTA have got a valid argument there, just because a vehicle is old doesn't automatically mean it is more of a danger to anyone, its how its looked after and driven thats important.
franc123,
Sep 20, 10:48am
Any dealer with brains should be doing this already! Its well known that a fair percentage of vehicles get traded because the owner knows that expenses are on the horizon. Little point in doing deals you aren't going to make money on.
therafter1,
Sep 20, 10:49am
Do you work in the trade !
Do you spend 8 hours a day looking at the internals and undersides of various vehicles that come from a cross section of society, from those living on the bones of their backsides thru to the well heeled !
kazbanz,
Sep 20, 10:52am
Well that depends on how the government plan on making that option work. If the SELLER has to have a new wof on the car it will make for some really cheap trade ins. Ie when you want to trade in it must have a new WOF. Then if it fails the car has little value.
therafter1,
Sep 20, 10:57am
Bang on . we have late model vehicles presented to us for their 12 month WOF inspection and the owners are usually a little miffed when they arrive to pick up their pride and joy only to be told that it has failed the inspection due to the front tyres being worn thru to the wire on the inside. From there they indignantly proceed to their vehicle, stand and look at the tyres with 5mm of tread showing on the outside and declare that there is nothing wrong with their tyres. ???I said the inside shoulders, bend down and put your hand in there and run your hand around the inside shoulder of the tyre, and while you do that I will go and get the med kit and some iodine to treat the puncture wounds that you inflict on yourself in the process??? !
therafter1,
Sep 20, 10:59am
Yep, there is an upside to you guys . you can just about hear the screaming from joe public already.
Yep, we will trade your vehicle, subject to a VTNZ WOF inspection.
rsr72,
Sep 20, 11:18am
So, why doesn't the rest of the world have it then! WOFs are nothing more than a well-outdated rort.
redhead96,
Sep 20, 11:33am
What is Switzerlands numbers on cars per household over there! I doubt if they have as many as NZ. Also I don't think they have the same mentality as NZ. Our driving habits play a part in what condition our car is in. And also how we look after them. Dear Government improve our public transport then when we are statisfied and want to use it more then look at our private vehicles.
bellky,
Sep 20, 11:53am
I'm a little dissapointed there is no concession (say wof every 12 mnths) for classic cars (over 40 yrs old).
But that wont really cost you anymore, Most places charge around $45 for a 6monthly WOF (i know some do charge less) so by the time you do that twice a year its going to be pretty much the same.
therafter1,
Sep 20, 1:13pm
Ifthat is the answer to my two simple questions, then I guess the answer must be a NO yes !
rsr72,
Sep 20, 1:22pm
Concerned your make-money rort may come to an end eh!
skin1235,
Sep 20, 1:22pm
from one of those links belky posted
A wide range of areas was investigated, some of which would be a fundamental change to the current situation. Although these ideas will not be further explored right now, some could be considered in the future, after a decision on the future charging for ACC??
therafter1,
Sep 20, 1:24pm
Do you like being wrong ! . I do not make any money out of WOF??
skin1235,
Sep 20, 1:26pm
from that you'd see they have visited the idea of fuel tax and decided that for now it would not fit the bill the concern re data is valid, unless there is an annual checklist per vehicle it could feasibly be out of date data suffice they have for now put that method to the side and it will not be considered this round they do seem quite serious re changing the method of revenue collection so maybe something will happen, and they also mention the desire to reduce cost to consumer - should we hold our breathe on that one!
skin1235,
Sep 20, 1:30pm
would you consider that an over 40yr old vehicle would be a daily driver, and that it would average the same average per ann as the rest of the national fleet - if they change to a distance based system the 40 yr old vehicle could well be in a discounted bracket on distance already
skin1235,
Sep 20, 1:35pm
been reading a few of the sheets provided, the general thrust appears to be 12 mth wof for general with further discussion for vehicles in the 3 to 6 yr old range personally I can see no great harm from that, it would be coupled with harder penalties for unsafe, have better enforcement powers ( green/pink orders etc the idiots who drive without wof now will have to reconsider their attitude - the bulk of folks who keep their vehicles above standard will continue to do so and servo's will play a part, a service will also include a decent check of condition of vehicle too
skin1235,
Sep 20, 1:39pm
as I've said before it wouldn't worry me if they scrapped the wof altogether, make the driver responsible for the condition of the vehicle on the day of driving - and thump them hard if they do not maintain to a good standard, but that would mean a lot would have to up their responsibility quota which would be in the too hard basket
mopsy3,
Sep 20, 1:44pm
Boaties use ACC don't they!
rsr72,
Sep 20, 1:49pm
#70- Most certainly not. Cannot in the least be bothered.
dr.doolittle,
Sep 20, 1:55pm
A tax should be on ALL fuels at the pump. Particularly in the big cities where you're unlikely to see a combine harvester rock-up to the pump. The vast majority of users are regular city folk so it wont make a difference. Those that are heavy users for things like boats, tractors, diggers ect. could just fill out a return, much like they probably do for GST anyway. I dont know any weekend fishermen who claim back the road tax for boat fuel.
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