Hi all. A lot of new cars have a button to start. But what is the real advantage! The new BMWs for example, you insert the "key" into a slot, then you push a separate button to start. It seems to me that's adding one extra step. Also there's a practicality issue. With a normal key you would probably have it on the same key ring as your house keys etc. However with this special "key" that's not shaped like a key, it may be difficult to do so. If you keep it on the same key ring, when it's inserted into the slot for it, you are still going to have a whole keyring dangling off it. So I'm just wondering what the real up-side is! Cheers
fryan1962,
Oct 21, 8:27pm
None my car is 60 yrs old and has push button start
unbeatabull,
Oct 21, 8:38pm
TBH It is moving towards the whole "Car is an appliance" movement for customers. A certain large demographic seem to like on/off buttons.
morrisman1,
Oct 21, 8:44pm
It's manufacturer standard RICE. Race cars often have it, therefore its cool to have it on your road car, apparently.
gunhand,
Oct 21, 8:45pm
I test drove a 2002 renault with this rather odd system few years back.bloody stupid idea. Just something else to go wrong.
chebry,
Oct 21, 8:46pm
Its absolutely no advantage one reason the key operated on off start key switch was so popular with drivers is it eliminated the hassle of starter buttons and pedals. Only a retard would think it was an advantage to return to the bad old system
edangus,
Oct 21, 8:48pm
Well I am not so into the funny keys, but the Fob detector ones that are push-button are great. You can set your locks up and everything so you don't have to take your keys out of your pocket. At the end of the day it is a gimmick, in saying that there is nothing quite like pushing a button and hearing the rumble of a V8 at the touch of a finger. (Still love it) Sad but true.
les6,
Oct 21, 8:49pm
actually the modern ones you don`t need the key,just have it with you.
unbeatabull,
Oct 21, 9:34pm
Normally just has to be inside the vehicle. New Mondeos, Kuga's, and some Focus's don't even have an ignition.
thewomble1,
Oct 21, 11:34pm
helps breaking keys.
thewomble1,
Oct 22, 1:31am
Some cars don't need a key to start so how does one start the engine without a push button.and stop the engine. And just because someone does go along with your thoughts does not make them a retard.
marblicious,
Oct 22, 4:20am
It does on the Internet.
socram,
Oct 22, 7:06am
I have wired up my project car with a remote operation for the starter.Quite simply, in my case, I see it being far more difficult to hot wire the car, as any low life breaking in wouldn't know where the starter solenoid wire was.Whilst not totally secure (nothing is) I woudl like to think it might delay them a while.
An on/off button is less easy to operate accidentally and the system on my (modern) car means that the off button won't work and the key can't be removed if the car isn't in Park.
chebry,
Oct 22, 7:30am
Going against a universally accepted improvement is not trend setting its regression people were rapt when starter buttons became a distant memory thinking they are trendy now is retarded
kazbanz,
Oct 22, 7:43am
My customers totally love the push buttom start in the smaller Toyotas. I can't comment on euro brands-Only Toyota but its far from a gimmick. Mr or Mrs brown are walking towards their car in the pouring rain or with the keys somewhere in the handbag/pocket,or with an armfull of books/groceries. In Toyota's you just grab the door handle and the car unlocks (some you need to push the button with your thumb) Then get in and push the button and you are away. The keys stay in your pocket or handbag. Push button turns the car off and push button on the door relocks the car. If the battery goes flat in the car then there is an emergency override key that gets you into the car. Ohh and the range is about 1.5m so no the car doesn't stay unlocked
tigra,
Oct 22, 8:05am
My first car, a '36 Morrie 8, had a push button start
chebry,
Oct 22, 8:11am
Now the japs have discovered starter buttons its a great leap forward, Did those people ever have an original idea! cant think of any
lookoutas,
Oct 22, 8:36am
Always wanted to drive off and see if the car dies when out of range of the module. Can't be bothered walking back, so haven't tried it yet. And what if ya get locked in! That'd be a piss-off!
db.price,
Oct 22, 9:00am
Generally with the push to start cars you actually don't have to insert the key - that is the advantage.You can have your key in your pocket or purse walk up push the button on the handle and the car opens then get in push the start button and away you go - all without touching the key.
Hell some of the more advanced ones you can start the car before you even get in.
as for advantages!Well a moderate amount of convenience I guess!
kngfhrt,
Oct 22, 9:04am
i remember i had starter button on my old HQ holden auto. i liked it because i could start it up in Drive/Reverse or whatever and Drive off straight away! As long as as wasn't gassing it to hard when starting it. i kind of really liked it and it got you under way a lot faster. apart from that a separate button for glow plugs on a diesel is sometimes not a bad thing on the older diesels it gives you the control of the desired time you want your plugs on for.
edangus,
Oct 22, 9:15am
It didn't stop on the Outlander. But when they finally stopped 50Km away.guess who had to go give them the key! Locked it ok, Push Button on door. But restart baahaahaaahaaahaaaaaaa.
trade4us2,
Oct 22, 9:16am
A guy killed himself and his family because he didn't know how to turn off the engine when the accelerator stuck wide open. Apparently he should have pushed the start button for three seconds. He was trying out a dealer's car. I want to be able to turn off the engine immediately.
socram,
Oct 22, 9:55am
Good point! At least with the project car there is an ignition switch anda proper kill switch.(I wonder how many boy racers fit a battery isolation switch, thinking it will also act as a kill switch!)
rsr72,
Oct 22, 10:02am
#1- None whatsoever, and is just a revived, modern, affectation by manufacturers. Was oncepopular on cars of the 1920's and 30's.
jason_247,
Oct 22, 10:06am
my e39 bmw has a normal key but has soft start built in
much like a push button you twist the key to start then release it back to on and the computer runs the started just as long as it needs to
saves holding the key around
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