I agree, we have a guy at work who has had at least 2 months off (not counting light duties afterwards) each of the last 3 years due to rugby injuries. User pays IMO!
oliver6,
Mar 18, 6:32pm
I'm not a tosser, you offensive little person. I didn't assume the truck driver was at fault because a truck was involved. It is dangerous, reckless driving to drive over another road user. The truck should have been further away from the cyclist.
kingfisher21,
Mar 18, 6:49pm
Once again, WERE YOU THERE! How do you know the cyclist didn't swerve into the trucks path!
lazeeboy,
Mar 18, 7:12pm
Perhaps there was another oncoming vehicle.or more cyclists riding too many abroad.
Edit to add: If it came down to avoiding a major accident.and it was a cyclist to eat dirt, or a head on collision, I know I would definitely not choose a head on collision!
trogedon,
Mar 18, 7:15pm
There is no mention of an oncoming vehicle and if there was the truck driver should have braked. The report says they were riding in single file (not two abreast "abroad").
lazeeboy,
Mar 18, 7:22pm
No mention of an oncoming vehicle and eyewitness confirmation there was no oncoming vehicle are 2 different things.
And I'm referring to oncoming traffic, if you would choose to re read my last post a little more carefully, you may find the clues pointing to my rhetorical speculation.
It's also my opinion that a truck can not, and will not ever handle as efficiently as your bicycle.
orion_audio,
Mar 18, 7:26pm
I think cycling is great and it would be awesome if more dedicated infrastructure was in place.
However, I'm not gonna ride my bike on the same track as a big hunks of metal weighing several tonnes andtraveling up to 100k. That seems just a little bit silly.
oliver6,
Mar 18, 7:29pm
I am of the opinion that the driver is at fault. I don't think that he is at faultbecause he drives a truck, but because his vehicle ran over a cyclist
orion_audio,
Mar 18, 7:33pm
His vehicle ran over a cyclist because there was a collision and truck is bigger than a bicycle. That doesn't mean that the collision was or wasn't his fault.
kingfisher21,
Mar 18, 7:39pm
So if someone jumps out in front of your car and you hit and kill them it's your fault! Yea right, Tui anyone.
puddleduck00,
Mar 18, 7:41pm
As a cyclist/MTBer I agree with you here. It doesn't matter who is lawfully in the right, at the end of the day if you're on a bike and you get squished by a car/truck then the law isn't going to help you come back to life. And the driver (and your family) will have to live with it for the rest of their lives.
Physics will tell you that on a 100km/hr stretch of road, a blind bend and a cyclist travelling at ~25km/hr = disaster. Despite who's fault the 'law' says it is, human reactions aren't quick enough.
oliver6,
Mar 18, 7:44pm
No, I don't think that. But if a person is walking on the edge of the road wearing highly visible clothing, and you run over them because you are too incompetent a driver to give them 1 meter clearance, you are at fault.
matarautrader,
Mar 18, 9:28pm
Why is it that cyclists like oliver6 bleat on about 1.5 meters clearance when they are the ones that ignore that. They cry foul when a car comes within the 1.5 meters but ignore that rule when it pleases them. I often find that when travelling in traffic I often come across a cyclist. I give them the 1.5 meters but find that when I get to the next set of lights that the cyclist ignores that rule and cycle between the cars until they get to the front. They then slowlyyyyyyyyy take off annoying all the cars behind them again especially those that are unable to procede because the lights change to red again. Those drivers lucky enough to have got away are finally able to pass them safely using the 1.5 meter clearance rule and then at the next set of lights the cyclists ignore the rule once again and p*ss all the drivers off once again. Cyclist should only be allowed on public roads at certain times when its quiet ( like midnight to 5am for instance), should have to by law be registered, pay ACC, have a rego number on their bike so they can be identified, be banned from wearing lycra as they look very shall we say "camp", and have to sit a yearly fitness test so they can prove that they can bicycle at a minimum of 50kph.
lazeeboy,
Mar 19, 5:51am
Because he, like many other lycra clowns, have a serious problem.
They put ego before safety.
flack88,
Mar 19, 6:19am
How do you the truck had anywhere to go!mite have had oncoming heavy truck!I know if its a choice, head on or the lycra bandit!/!Dont assume anything noddey.
lazeeboy,
Mar 19, 6:41am
There wasno "reports" of oncoming traffic.that is how he knows!
We have a lot of cyclists here in the Bay,the biggest problem i find is our very narrow roads,a truck cannot move off the seal to pass it is very dangerous and easy to roll a truck doing so,I have rolled a trailer doing this [ a car on my side of the road ] it is very important for cyclists to be as far left as possible.for some very strange reason the Lycra crowd don't get this,a pity really as it gives the rest of the cyclists a really bad name.Most are good as and our trucks are very careful around cyclists [ Fonterra Golden Bay ] PS we have driver training and assessment every year
supernova2,
Mar 19, 10:01am
I have no idea what happened in the accident that started this thread but what i do know is that most Lycra clad cyclists that I have encountered on the road are the biggest bunch of idiots I have ever seen.If they are in an organised race fair enough (maybe) but the ones out training or whatever are just absolute bloody idiots as far as road safety goes.
I put it down to their genetailia being compromised by the lycra.
Would you enter a mini in a track race with a Kenworth!Extreme as that may sound that is the reality of any sort of bike versus a motor vehicle of any sort.Look at the injury that can occur in a bicycle race (tour de france etc).I have a mate thats a bit of a competative cyclist.He has a training rig that allows him to train in his lounge.He fell off his bike on that rig and did himself all sorts of mischief.
Reality check - Bikes (of all types) are bloody dangerous!
puddleduck00,
Mar 19, 11:27am
.Troll
lazeeboy,
Mar 19, 12:25pm
I agree.
Cyclists should be licensed, registered, pay ACC, and have a warrant of fitness to use the roads.
Just like everybody else.
Then, and only then.should you complain you are not getting the road you think you deserve.
puddleduck00,
Mar 19, 1:04pm
The same with pedestrians then. I don't use the footpath, so why should I pay for it.
oliver6,
Mar 19, 1:08pm
I'm sure that will improve the driving ability of our many dangerous drivers and stop them from killing cyclists on our roads.
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