An esteemed local was telling me that you may lose your 'fit and proper person' status if you collect points eg like his latest indiscretion of going 200kph on the west coast of the south island - all in perfectly safe conditions of course (driving to the conditions and all). Anyway Mr Plood will send you a letter stating that they will strip you of any privileges you may have that they have power to remove eg gun license (maybe pilots license too - who knows) What a lame o country we live in! News to me that Mr Plood was so vindictive. Must purchase a helicopter so I can cane it all the time. Have you tasted Mr Ploods vindictive whip?
Er. Actuall there is a special name for that sort of behavior and people with authority are specifically prohibited from using their positions in one role to enforce, punish or make people do things.
Local councils aren;t allowed for instance, to decline a building permit just because the rates were overdue say, or because you were disputing, er. selling them a corner for a new road.
If you break the road rules, it doesn't make you unfit to fly or own a gun or teach in a school.
brapbrap8,
Mar 31, 7:45pm
Yes I have heard of people losing their gun licence for drink driving or excessive speeding. As a bit of a gun nut myself I think its not a bad thing, but at least try and make it more consistent. Too many poachers get done trespassing with loaded guns or shooting on public roads and get a wet bus ticket.
sr2,
Mar 31, 8:11pm
LOL, I suspect doing 200 km/hr on a public road just might be a criminal offence!
morrisman1,
Mar 31, 8:23pm
Cant comment for gun licences, but with flying you are obliged to inform CAA of any new convictions or traffic offences. They aren't out to ban people willy nilly, but if you have a history of being a 'slow learner' then they do reserve the right to decline you fit and proper person status.
flancrest,
Mar 31, 8:28pm
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Gun and Pilot licensing should be subject to not being a moron who can't follow rules. Don't see an issue.
mcscottwgtn,
Apr 1, 2:23pm
Your statement probably includes breaches of some rule! Therefore you are offering yourself as unfit to hold a driving license? Just because you may like a spot of speed now and then, doesn't mean you wont follow your gun license rules to the letter.
richardmayes,
Apr 1, 2:46pm
Doing 100km over the speed limit isn't an accident.
It shows a total disregard for the laws of the land. It says "I don't care, I'll do whatever I want."
Removing privileges e.g. gun licenses from such people doesn't seem "vindictive" at all. Seems quite sensible.
purple666,
Apr 1, 2:58pm
I would much prefer people that hold gun licenses to show common sense rather than a blind adherence to the rules, and the same goes for drivers. And I hardly think that going a bit quick shows a total disregard of the laws of the land.
Edit for spelling
flancrest,
Apr 1, 3:03pm
And do you consider twice the speed limit "a bit quick"?
flancrest,
Apr 1, 3:04pm
It doesn't.
flancrest,
Apr 1, 3:05pm
It is a very good indicator though.
flancrest,
Apr 1, 3:06pm
And going 100k over the limit shows a complete lack thereof.
brapbrap8,
Apr 1, 3:09pm
When you think about it, excessive speeding on a public road shows a very similar mentality to shooting from a public road or poaching. The speeder is too stupid/cheap/lazy to pay their $20 to race at nightwars etc, and the person illegally hunting is too stupid/cheap/lazy to head into a public hunting block or jack up permission for private land to shoot on.
mechnificent,
Apr 1, 3:28pm
Gee I'm with Purple at #13
I like a bit of rebel.
Then I'm with Brap about people on public roads with loaded guns.
I'm not sure which is the more dangerous but I suspect the gun.
Either in good hands are probably fine. I think people loose their discretion when there are too many rules, and the rule that sets the minimum standard becomes the norm and standard. People stop thinking for themselves.
mcscottwgtn,
Apr 1, 4:28pm
Rules are for simpletons to follow as they are clueless and may harm themselves or others through their own stupidity!
elect70,
Apr 1, 4:29pm
No such law exists , plod hasnt got any authority over flying or preventing you obtaining gun license just because you speed . The bully boys in blue love to think they have all these powers but it would have to be a court judge to make the ruling if a law existed
nightsky1,
Apr 1, 4:50pm
anyone who thinks doing 200 kmph on a public road is "perfectly safe" needs to be kept away from being in charge of firearms, airplanes AND any slightly sharp objects.
what a self entilted loser.
skin1235,
Apr 1, 5:22pm
I'm pretty sure that when you apply for a gun license you do not have to declare any traffic offenses, nor are any traffic offenses taken into consideration when granting one, criminal charges are, but do not automatically mean you won't get your license, of course some criminal charges of specific nature will get the veto immediately
intrade,
Apr 1, 5:30pm
you obviously never driven any powerfull cars if i overtake somone in a 80 ending zone in my tdi vw by the time i have passed them my odometer reads at least 140kph it takes mear secounds to reach 200kph on some propper powerfull cars.
scuba,
Apr 1, 5:36pm
Seems to be a bit suspect i would expect a lawyer to challenge it in court eventually- your literally being punished again for something that has already been dealt with. something like double jeopardy .?
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