i asked a few dealers what trade in they would give me for a touaregs before deciding to buy my new navara, most laughed long and hard, i suggest you ring a few. Yesterday i was chatting with a builder, He said his boss bought one new for his wife(petrol). It used 7 litre of oil every 1000kms, constant complaints to dealer and checking of vehicle by them, keep being explained as usual consumption. In the end he had to threaten to post signs on it and park out front of dealers yard. In the end they replaced with another new one, which is ok.
melonhead1,
May 7, 12:11am
It may be junk, but a Diesel V10 sounds like it'd be so cool do have.
cagivachick1,
May 7, 2:53am
not much left of that one they fished out of the ocean at the catlins
johotech,
May 7, 3:37am
So what have I learned from this thread.
I don't have problems with timing chain stretch. I don't have to run my car on BP Ultimate 98. I don't have problems with DPF in my diesel. I don't need stability control when I'm towing. I don't have to import towbar wiring looms from the UK. I don't have to own a $400 scan tool.
So looks like I'm all sweet, cause I don't own a VW.
ema1,
May 7, 3:57am
Drive maybe but to have definitely NO, sounds are one thing actuality of a reliable drive is quite another.
ema1,
May 7, 4:09am
Who the heck wants to go to the extent of purchasing all this extra "junk"? It makes the veiled praises touted here seem rather alarmingly obviously flawed if you ask me. You don't need all this diagnostics stuff or shouldn't if you start out with proven reliability in the first place. The agents "Should" have the appropriate gear anyway but do they indeed have it all, the ones that do no doub't need to fund their purchase somehow, charging like a "wounded bull" is one way possibly the main way to be honest. Anyone not mechanically minded wouldn't know what the hell to do with all this "gear" for testing this and that, for gods sake that's what dealerships service centre's are for? Ahhh but wait there's more, Euro dealerships charge like a wounded bull . right and NOT always effect a decent fix in lots of cases. Why do Euro Warrier's always state aw you can import various parts etc etc from overseas suppliers then eh? Then say aw parts are freely available in NZ at a reasonable prices, some maybe and if all parts were a reasonable price why bring the importing them scenario into the equation. got to be a valid reason for that. Totally agree with you johotech. 100% and I don't and won't ever own a VW modern product, the only VW I would consider is the original air cooled Beetle that's when they DID have a reputation for reliability .
cagivachick1,
May 7, 4:10am
we have a family friend with a passat W8 now there is a car that will cripple you financially
johotech,
May 7, 4:54am
Well just as a comparison, in 2007 I bought a 9 year old Honda CRV with about 70k on it. Owned it for 7 years, so it was 16 year old when I sold it. Got $7k less than I paid for it, as a trade in.
Had two faults in 7 years. First, the rear diff oil needed to be changed due to a common fault in that model . The second hand car dealer we bought it off fixed that for free as it was only a few months since I bought it.
Second fault - a bolt on the AC belt idler pulley bracket broke. It had probably been over tightened at some point. About $1 to repair.
So in 7 years, it cost $7001.00 in depreciation and repairs.
Needless to say, I replaced that one with another CRV.
brapbrap8,
May 7, 5:13am
Plenty of Toyotas that will break down if not run on premium gas as well.
bumfacingdown,
May 7, 2:37pm
They happily run on 95, not use 95 if you are stuck and only use 98 at all other times. Always amuses me that run only on 98, a whole swag of the country is immediately disqualified from owing one.
tamarillo,
May 7, 3:46pm
Odd how the op is asking about a VW toureg and people feel they need to clog up the thread with their inflated egos and biased personal opinion. If you still believe only japs male reliable cars fine, continue buying boring cars. But times have changed and euro makers have got thei act together years ago. I'm in Europe right now and here a VW is like a Toyota is to us. Solid reliable transport. But since they're ahead of most Japanese technology now and are more efficient and a better drive, they drive euro, specifically German when wanting good long lasting reliable cars. It's easy to find a bad experience with any make of car and generalise, but some posters really need to break down some old prejudices.
zephyrheaven,
May 7, 6:16pm
Im a mechanic with my own shop & 20 years in the trade - Ive had more cars than most people I know with a number of euro's in the mix
We bought a 2004 Touareg in January this year for $11500 with a 2 year extreme autosure warranty, NZ new with two owners full service history & its a dream to drive - V6 / big brake kit / coil sprung / auto If you are looking in that price bracket for a SUV a similar Japanese one will be a low spec poverty pack with very few bells & whistles
On the other side of the coin we have just removed & refitted a V10 from a Diesel Touareg - 28 hours labour which isnt bad considering they recommend 30 if you are a VW tech. I wouldnt touch a diesel one with a barge pole myself.
We still take my 2012 Ranger on long trips because of the space in the deck for all the kids gear but its not very practical for my wife to drive jacked up with mud tyres etc.
Hope that helps
andy.,
May 7, 7:42pm
Thanks Tamarillo and zephyr, husband try out one we are interested in today. He wasn't going to be swayed - we've both had euro cars 10+ years now and he says he won't be going back to Japanese. Like with all things bad news spreads easier than good news - and we'll do our homework on it. cheers
meow_mix,
May 7, 9:17pm
Jazz will be very pleased, another VW owner out there. Maybe he'll have the courage to come back and post in this thread again.
henderson_guy,
May 8, 2:10am
Oh my,the irony is delicious!
andy.,
May 9, 6:19am
To be fair, we asked about the VW before I knew who 'Jazz' was, so he can't take any thanks/criticism for a conversion on our part. We have owned VW's before, amongst other European cars the last 10+ years. Prior to that we owned Jap/NZ new cars and we simply prefer Euro's for several reasons. We have some negotiating to do and actually have a few questions for Jazz but we're feeling like we might be doing a road trip to pick it up sometime soon! cheers everyone
meow_mix,
Feb 5, 11:01am
Well best of luck with your new Touareg. There seem to be some good ones and some bad ones out there. Germans are meticulous when it comes to vehicle maintainance, Kiwis less so as we're used to Japanese Corollas that run forever with very little maintainance.
So obviously try to find one that's been well serviced over it's life. Touaregs certainly have their good points, come back and tell us when you get one.
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