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elect70, Oct 4, 4:52am
doing his bit for road saftey tis afternoon , driving around local mall carpark with his #plate cam , saw him tap in a couple of miscreants who will get a surprise in the mail next week . Meanwhile -----
tgray, Oct 4, 5:46am
Good.
morrisman1, Oct 4, 5:55am
Can the cops issue infringements on parked cars?
skull, Oct 4, 6:01am
If they are in a public place. Parked on your back lawn no.
thejazzpianoma, Oct 4, 6:40am
What's the bet they are using it as a revenue gatherer by pinging people outrageous amounts of money because their tax payment is slightly late?

It's this sort of robbing the poor that helps drive people into poverty and increases suicides etc.

I would be fine if it was just used for serious crime, but late tax with an outrageous penalty? Sod off.
gunhand, Oct 4, 6:46am
Do you know how much serious crime is detected via out of date regos and wofs? Quite a bit. Although driving around a car park wouldnt do much unless contact with owners were made.
socram, Oct 4, 6:51am
I pay my rego to use the road, pay ACC etc. on several cars, Why shouldn't they? Far happier than the cop pinging people doing 86kph on a motorway over Christmas.

They normally give you a warning if just over, but every day, you can see cars with rego's that expired months ago. It isn't robbing the poor.

Owning a car carries a cost. My Dad wouldn.t let me buy a car because he said I couldn't afford it. He was right. I couldn't afford to run one until I was 21, even though I was working full time at 16. During times of hardship. the car was off the road. Tough.
ree6, Oct 4, 7:13am
Stolen cars get parked in carparks.
ema1, Oct 4, 7:46am
Utter bollocks !
Typical cop hater lame excuse , if you haven't got your stuff up to date . you pay the consequences. simple no excuses!
bwg11, Oct 4, 7:54am
ema1, Oct 4, 8:56am
Improving roads is one thing. improving driving habits is the other.
Then there's more and more cars and drivers on our roads every year and the infrastructure isn't keeping pace with the increase. far from it , particularly up north .
Then Police numbers isn't keeping pace with the increases either . somethings gotta give and carnage stats are it . pity.
skull, Oct 4, 9:03am
I think you will find that the "poor" unregistered and unwarranted drivers will be over represented in the accident statistics so good on them for policing that side of the equation.
thejazzpianoma, Oct 4, 9:09am
That's never a good argument. An unfair practice should never be justified by a positive side effect.

Bottom line is, a $200 fine for a $20 tax payment that is a couple of months late is obscene. It would never ever be tolerated in the business world so the last thing we should be doing is foisting this on the nations poor who regularly have to choose between things like a Doctors visit vs paying vehicle tax.

I should point out too, it's not like it won't get paid either. The collection systems even without Police and parking warden involvement are so over the top pretty much no one escapes.
thejazzpianoma, Oct 4, 9:14am
If it was a sound argument you wouldn't have to try twist what I said by trying to lump unwarranted vehicles in with those who just haven't paid their tax.

That said though. do you think a system that unnecessarily links your ability to pay your tax to having a current vehicle inspection thus increasing the fine amount is fair?

How do you think those people then afford to bring their vehicles up to legal standard when you have just taken a substantial amount of money off them and they were struggling to pay in the first place?

I have helped a few people on the breadline where I can with vehicles. I see it first hand.
supernova2, Oct 4, 9:37am
I think a fine for no rego/wof is just a stupid idea as it will just get "put on the tab" and the car will just continue on its merry way.

I think it should be an impound for no wof/rego.

The wof is a safety item and the rego is mostly ACC levy to cover the costs of patching up the errent driver who crashes in the unsafe car.

Impound the noncompliant car and it will either get sorted or it will be one less death trap on the road. By all means continue with the "compliance" scheme where appropriate but the ones that are years overdue need to be removed. I personally know of 1 local car with mum and 2 kids which is used daily and hasn't had a wof/rego for 5 years.

Its epidemic in this town. If people don't think its a problem they need to go walk through the carparks at the local paknsave and warehouse and just look at the windscreens.

I pay mine and I can not see any reason why others should not pay theirs. Saying its a trade off between the doctor for the kids or rego for the car is just bollocks. Its called complying with the law! Extreme example but unwofed car in accident and kids injured. Bit of a cart and horse situation dont you think!
ema1, Oct 4, 10:19am
These people are the same as everyone else .if their vehicles aren't up to scratch or can't pay taxes or whatever they should either not have a car or suffer the consequences.
There is such a thing in lots of towns/cities as public transport =buses or haven't you discovered them yet. lame excuses bah why should there be one rule for your "poor" folk and another law/rule for everyone else.
You are damn well arguing for the sheer hell of it. your thoughts on this one are just plain dumb, speaking of your words sound argument . in cases like this there should be NO ARGUMENT . FULL STOP !
You are always spouting on about "doing the math" well if they can't afford to keep there cars up to scratch or pay tax or whatever. easy don't own one in the first place . go use public transport . plenty of folks do you know and there's plenty who don't actually own vehicles.
For gods sake many years ago if you couldn't afford a car let alone afford to run one in all that entails you simply didn't own a car. simple as that.
Buses trams etc were more practical and cheaper means of getting about.
What about push bikes even. phew.
Bugger me you are doing nothing but condoning breaking the law and or condoning not paying tax or whatever your babbling on about. that's just plain dumb and doesn't even come into the realms of a "sound argument ! "
berg, Oct 4, 5:18pm
Shows your lack of knowledge here. Police infringement for expired rego (or not paying your tax as you put it) is only $100, ie, half what your grandstanding view states. It also comes with a lengthy period of a little thing called "compliance", ie, get it registered within the date specified, prove it to the infringement beurau, and said ticket goes away. But, you being the policing expert, and being the one who could/should apply to join the police, where, with your vast knowledge and superior experience, you will have a meteoric rise to commissioner so you can show how it should be done, would know all of this.
bashfulbro, Oct 4, 7:33pm
Everyone that owns and /or drives a vehicle should pay, like the rest of us,to do so.
I think it`s a great idea.
Quite often, the dodgers are shifty pricks, involved in other crime too.
How often, do we read on here about 'useless cops' that do nothing to find my stolen car ?, well, this shows, they`re not doing nothing.
flack88, Oct 4, 7:38pm
When do they give compliance,not very often! The ticket goes away really,you must have 'special ' relationship with them.I know someone that was working 3 jobs and was getting tickets,mainly a crack in windscreen prevented a wof ,she could gone on the benefit and got winz to pay but she chose to work.the system f. kd !tHE car was up to road standard I had kept it maintained,just the windscreen.
bumfacingdown, Oct 4, 7:48pm
"I should point out too, it's not like it won't get paid either."
Hahahaha, like the car I saw the other day that had a Rego lapse date of 03/08/2012 is going to be all paid up, like when.
You talk some garbage man
tgray, Oct 4, 9:18pm
I see the aussie Police shows on TV, where they pull over a car without REG and it is immediately towed. From that moment on, it is not to be driven on a public road until REG is sorted.
And what do we do here? give them a ticket and they are on there merry way.
Too soft here in NZ. Way to soft.
gazzat22, Oct 4, 9:54pm
We should do what other countries do. Tow or clamp it for no road tax and/or insurance.Two weeks to sort it or to the crusher it goes.
ema1, Oct 4, 10:26pm
Exactly there should be absolutely no excuse what so ever, same in UK for rego and insurance etc . no beg your pardons there. Canada the same probably even more strict . yep talking crap for sure.
What the hell does jazz want for NZ . anarchy where anybody can please themselves whether they pay up or whatever and 3rd world status. his argument is exactly what it is. nuts.
ema1, Oct 4, 10:43pm
One word description = numpty., and showing a continuation of lying propaganda to suit his warped agenda, credibility nah. doesn't come within a bulls roar. another example of needing to take a grain of salt at his lies and half truths propaganda, nah a grain of salt isn't enough . more like a salt mine needed really !
I just don't understand where the never ending loads of bollocks comes from honestly. (walking away shaking my head . again) happens too often to be fair.
Bullshit & Jellybeans is way above his comprehension I reckon berg.
elect70, Oct 5, 1:58am
fine & also 30 demerit points for overdue rego someone tell me how that makes a safer driver .