ICE vehicles banned by 2030

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timberman, Feb 24, 6:44am
We cant fix poverty
We cant fix health problems
But we can fix climate change Yeah right

tweake, Feb 24, 7:05am
and come 2030, 2035 etc they will all change their mind.
at the moment they can promise anything or even make it law. but it means nothing.

reality is there is no battery tech available that makes EV usable for any load carrying vehicle and without that industry grinds to a halt.

s_nz, Feb 24, 7:12am
Should note that years I mentioned are for Light vehicles (cars, vans and utes under 3500kg gvm), Not heavy trucks.

If you are talking trades people type vehicles, there is large number of electric vans planned for launch in the UK / Europe in the next two years:

https://www.parkers.co.uk/vans-pickups/advice/future-electric-vans

Utes are far less common in the UK than here, but a plug in hybrid version of the ranger is expected in the UK / Aus in 2022, and you can allready get a single cab chassis version of the LDV EV 80.

tweake, Feb 24, 7:23am
even for vans i suspect it would be a big struggle.
the problem is simply high weight and range. tradies do both.
utes much the same. EV's simply can't tow or carry large weight.
hybrid would be nice but really its going to be normal ute with small battery and electric motor. much like some of the hybrid trucks where the electric is good for walking speed around the yard and thats about it. personally i think thats useful but it does nothing emissions wise.

tony9, Feb 24, 7:27am
So just a continuation of the current trend towards proper SUVs.

By 2030 everyone will want one of these.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Super_Duty

tweake, Feb 24, 7:30am
you're not wrong there.

we would have to ditch the utes and be forced to go up to 3500kg+ vehicles.

tony9, Feb 24, 7:38am
Yes, just image a million of those on the school runs. Would really do a lot for the greening of the planet. I am genuinely sorry I will not be around to see it.

s_nz, Feb 24, 9:13am
Yeah, this is also an issue with the current clean car standard too. Only applies to light vehicles, so dodge will pick up a fine for every Ram 1500 sold and need to raise the price to cover this, but won't for the ram 2500 / 3500, Making the latter more attractive for buyers cross shopping.

I don't know the answer to this. Encouraging people into even larger vehicles while trying to reduce emissions is quite a policy failing.

mrfxit, Feb 24, 6:03pm
Unless you have 100% solar power & no connection to the main grid, some of the local power companys put a surcharge on what power you generate

jeff1234, Feb 24, 7:38pm
Was talking to a leaf and tesla owner on the weekend (they own one of each) His comment was the Tesla was great, range wasnt affected by load in the vehicle, 2 bikes on roof cost 20% of range, any trailer at least halved the range to below 200kms. If that is cutting edge at the moment, there is some work to do to replace my ute. The leaf was only good as a commuter car, with a small trailer to the dump range was less than 80km. The cool thing was he did drag racing with it and smashed V8's with it (showed us video!) and it was plugged in on a powered campsite to refuel (very slowly! )

absolute_detail, Nov 20, 10:26pm
Reckon it will happen? Going to be a lot of old shit boxes kept on the rd

jesus2000, Nov 20, 11:12pm
They want the same for trucks and ships and planes etc.

https://youtu.be/_h0InnjrZjI

loose.unit8, Nov 20, 11:27pm
Is this the Greens? Do they mean just the importation & sale of ICE vehicles?

Possible.

absolute_detail, Nov 20, 11:32pm
Yea imagine what would happen if they tried to outright ban ice vehicles altogether

bill-robinson, Nov 20, 11:37pm
i wonder how they will get a trolley bus down the lane to pick me up when i need to go somewhere.

jesus2000, Nov 20, 11:37pm

loose.unit8, Nov 20, 11:44pm
haha exactly!

s_nz, Nov 21, 12:11am
UK has just done it (for light road vehicles at least). Non plug in car imports / new sales banned from 2030, and plug in hybrids imports / new sales banned from 2035.

India is targeting 2030, California is planning 2035. Canada is planning 2040.

Green party is pushing hard to match the UK position, but I think we will settle on being 5 years slower than them.

tygertung, Nov 21, 12:43am
So just keep your existing car. No problem.

tygertung, Nov 21, 12:47am
The most fuel efficient car is the one which sits in the garage (or driveway).

Just bike. Screw spending money on petrol, buy beer instead. Bike to the supermaket to pick it up. That's what legs are for.

cassina1, Nov 21, 12:52am
I am not too worried as I may not be alive then anyway. One thing that I don't think will happen is that EVs will come down in price as with each new model that comes out with a better range than the last, the cost of designing the new battery will have to be got back by higher prices. This is what's happening with E bikes anyway.

loose.unit8, Nov 21, 1:02am
Is that healthier or unhealthier?

tygertung, Nov 21, 1:04am
Healthier. Beer has B vitamins doesn't it?

tony9, Nov 21, 1:23am
Actually they have done nothing.

In the unlikely event nothing changes before 2030, same govt etc., etc. then it may well happen.

bill-robinson, Nov 21, 1:52am
the thing all these dreamers forget is generating the electricity and building the grid to move around the country, it will not be free or cheap