Restricted licence failures

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kazbanz, Jul 29, 2:35am
That depends.--If the tester is a big fat person then no. but if of average size then theres an issue with the belt

martin11, Jul 29, 2:41am
Good comment we did not have the full story .

likit, Jul 29, 2:54am
Going by the drivers I see on the road at least half shouldn’t even be allowed to own a vehicle.
A simple test to start would be to park a vehicle between 2 white lines, if you can’t do that don’t apply for a licence ever again.

differentthings, Jul 29, 5:00am
lol, then no one here in Tauranga would have one. I'm pretty sure people around here think of them as some type of general guild to how you should park

h.e, Jul 29, 5:07am
I completely agree about the car control etc. But it is a competency test," no head check changing lanes" how many accidents have been caused by blind spots? "No head checks or mirrors into a median strip" Its a lane others use as well. Taking the wrong lane when turning at a intersection when there is 2 or more too choose from FAIL.This is what kids are failing on basic driving skills and generally its because they have been taught by their parents who have no idea what THEY are teaching their kid will be a fail

h.e, Jul 29, 5:13am
Yep over time is a fail, the amount of people who try to do their test at 30-40 kph is quite high, my wife points out they are a hazard causing others to do stupid shit, as for 5 minutes late everyone is advised to turn up 1/2 hr early for photos paper work and to ensure you get there on time ( flat tyre etc). Other are booked in after you and your not that special LOL

paul861, Jul 29, 5:25pm
I rode in the seat to vtnz, 6ft,90kg. his puku was a lot larger than mine, sedentary type chap. 10 years ago now,sons mid 90s mitsi lancer import, cant remember clearly but I think the nz belts were longer

pauldw, Jul 29, 8:03pm
Is it even necessary to remove the non required lamp if it doesn't work?
"Any other high-mounted stop lamp is a permitted lamp. The permitted lamp is not required to operate, but if it does operate, it must meet the equipment, condition and performance requirements, although it may be obscured."

easygoer, Jul 29, 9:35pm
My son went for his restricted there recently, of about 8 people who went out at that sitting only 2 came back inside to complete the paperwork having passed, one of which was my son, the others obviously failed their test, if the standard was to fail people to gain another test fee, no one would be completing the paperwork, obviously your son didn't meet the requirements to be a safe driver on our roads and further training is required. Did he rely on parental training or utilise a driving instructor, this I recommend, I taught my son to drive but insisted he also take formal lessons to cover what I missed.

kazbanz, Jul 29, 9:49pm
Setting aside the vehicle issues which are another case of things not properly thought out.
I genuinely feel that the driver testing does indeed need to be tougher.

wachael1, Jul 29, 11:43pm
It was well known in Hamilton that Frankton has a VERY high failure rate (if you google it the stats are publicly available). That is why there are always short notice appointments available there but at every other VTNZ in the Waikato there is at least a four week wait. Both my kids have recently got their licenses and it was well know among their peers.

Would suggest you suck up the wait and book elsewhere and go in the car as an observer next time. Apparently they are less likely to fail a teen who has an observer (not sure if that’s true or not but was again a common belief amongst my kids peers). I went with one of mine but the other didn’t want me to.

headcat, Jul 30, 12:17am
Get your husband to issue the licence then.

sr2, Jul 30, 4:17am
I hear what you’re saying there but the dilemma is are we producing better drivers or just people who have been taught to pass the test?

Many are of the opinion that the criteria used for license testing in NZ has some fundamental flaws, it could be argued that the poor standard of driving is ample proof of this. (One definition of stupidity is repeating the same thing while expecting a different outcome?).

As an example the obsession with perpetual head checking is one requirement that leaves most somewhat bemused and confused (to say the least). The majority of modern cars have multiple 'head-check blind-spots' caused by strengthened B & C pillars, higher sloped rear windows, lower seating heights, etc. Head-checking is anything but a reliable method of assessing your surroundings and in many vehicles the rear vision mirrors provide a far more detailed view with additional convex mirrors arrays.

Surely judging a learner driver by their overall special awareness would be far more productive than counting head movements to the point where passing the test has the driver looking like he/she is watching a tennis match on a 62 inch TV from only half a meter away!

tamarillo, Jul 30, 4:22am
This. No sympathy at all.

tamarillo, Jul 30, 4:23am
Op, as above what did he fail on? Experienced Truckee can mean not up to date or learnt bad habits. See plenty of cop cars that do things that would fail a test. Just saying

mrsb, Jul 30, 5:23am
So many things I could say, but better not. Next time someone says a really dumb reason why they failed, demand to see the email they received detailing exactly why they failed, half the time it has nothing to do with what they claim, or that is only a small part

mrsb, Jul 30, 5:26am
only 2 came back inside to complete the paperwork having passed, one of which was my son, the others obviously failed their test

Only people who booked online and did not do the paperwork before hand (liek they are told to) must go inside after to complete the paperwork. Just because someone did not come in does not mean they failed

wachael1, Jul 30, 5:45am

wachael1, Jul 30, 5:47am
Both mine booked online and both had to go inside afterwards while the tester wrote up their temporary license.

mrsb, Jul 30, 6:02am
I hope you are not quoting me to point out I don't know what I am talking about, because you said exactly what I said

wachael1, Jul 30, 6:06am
No, you said only those who had booked online and hadn’t completed the paperwork had to go inside. Mine had booked online and completed the paperwork but still had to go in while the tester wrote up their temporary license.

mrsb, Jul 30, 6:18am
Ok, sorry, I accused you of doing what I just did. Not sure why the tester not doing it in the car so the person doesn't have to come back in, but not a big deal I guess

wachael1, Jul 30, 6:34am
Definitely not a big deal. Was just our experience. Two different VTNZ centres in our case.

martin11, Jul 30, 5:52pm
Thats the way it used to be done when the testing was done by NZDL .

amasser, Jul 30, 7:56pm
Is parallel parking rated as very important? Apart from inconvenience to following vehicles, there is little chance of any danger or harm. If the driver takes two tries to do it, should be passed for using good judgment.
When the test is on a motorway, low fuel light becomes an issue.