Has anyone had experience of failing a restricted licence at VTNZ Frankton Hamilton? Our son has now failed twice. But hubby-who is a very experienced truckie- does not believe the testers were correct when they gave their reasons for failing.
wind.turbine,
Jul 28, 4:41am
it depends of what said reasons are.
yendor,
Jul 28, 4:57am
You or Hubby need to go in the Car with him next time then they can't BS you or him.
sw20,
Jul 28, 5:00am
If there was one job the police did well, it was driver licensing. After it was privatised it went to shit.
sr2,
Jul 28, 5:38am
Correct me if I am wrong, the police never did driver license testing - it was the MOT traffic cops?
To be honest when I sat my drivers license the day after I turned 15 the MOT Cop pointed out that although it was obvious I'd never had a lesson or practiced I 'had what it takes' and passed me after a quick drive around the block.
(Anyone remember the MOT office in the shops at the beginning of Manuka Rd Glenfield).
When 2 months later I turned up on a "brand new" totally clapped out 700 Norton Dominator with big bars and an 18 inch over solid front end (yes I know. ) he threw up his hands in despair, got me to wobble down the road and back again and once again gave me a pass!
h.e,
Jul 28, 5:46am
My wife does license testing and these type of threads crack me up. There is a minimum standard required to pass your test, if little Johnny doesn't meet the standard tough shit get him lessons, he has picked up your bad habits and you wouldn't pass a test either. There is no required fail rate just a MINIMUM standard
pico42,
Jul 28, 5:49am
Would you mind posting the reasons for not passing? Curious to know whether VTNZ are out of order or whether your husband needs a refresher.
sw20,
Jul 28, 6:23am
Nah got my licences between 1995 and 1997. MOT had been merged in with the general police by then.
benthecat,
Jul 28, 6:24am
If he hasn't had any formal lessons then strongly recommend that he gets a couple of sessions with a good instructor. One who knows the area where your son will take his test. An instructor will know the points which the testers will be looking at. If he has had lessons, then you or the instructor can sit in with him on his test. You need to be able to hold your tongue though.
slarty45,
Jul 28, 6:32am
I think I did mcycle license there mid 70s. Soon after heading off round the block, cop pulled up to my right & yelled to meet him back at office. He took off after a car. Waited for about 20 min & he turned up & passed me.
Had failed 1st time in Auck central for going a flyshit over 30 down a hill. Zundapp KS50 had no engine braking
sr2,
Jul 28, 9:17am
Yeah. na.
No lack of respect to your missus intended but the "standards" she is required to adhere to has 5/8 of FA to do with the competency, car control skills, spacial awareness, risk management, . etc. that makes a safe & competent driver. For better or worse her world is sadly entrenched in our new low risk "the faster you go the bigger the mess" environment.
franc123,
Jul 28, 10:03am
More like its turned into a cash cow like everything else in this country regardless of whether its Govt or private enterprise involved, even worse if its PE doing a Govt job. These minimum standards are a joke anyway, they dont create safe competent drivers. The reasons for failing are generally petty rubbish that simply doesn't raise the standard of driving. Theres clear evidence the system is not producing the desired results.
paul861,
Jul 28, 4:43pm
my son failed because the tester couldn't get the seatbelt around his belly, didn't even start the car. had to get a new longer seatbelt
gph1961,
Jul 28, 5:03pm
well done to get up the hill in the first place
amasser,
Jul 28, 7:23pm
How long since you or husband got your licence and have you kept up-to-date with changes?
mrfxit,
Jul 28, 10:02pm
As above, no disrespect intended to any specific individual BUT, yep fully agree. The new testing regulations are pretty extensive including such things as being over the time limit allowed, regardless of WHY, even if it was an accident/ roadworks/ heavy traffic etc. Being 5 minutes late to the appointment. Not having enough fuel according to the inspector (who probably knows nothing of the economy of that specific vehicle) Going 2kph over the speed on a downhill section in heavy traffic Going 2kph under the lower limit after turning a sharp corner rounding on to a hill OR, just being super pedantic.
Plenty of these storys around & backed up by several sources at the time.
sw20,
Jul 28, 10:09pm
Worst one I heard of was the young driver was failed instantly because his high stop lamp wasn't working. The catch was, the car was pre 1990 and never had one new. Young driver said no problem, I'll cut the wire and rip it off the screen in two seconds. Tester said nope, already seen it, fail. Total wanker.
kazbanz,
Jul 28, 10:30pm
My experience was with the last testing company (AA) Customer was an experienced driver from overseas but their licence converted to a learner licence in NZ. They purchased a Jeep Cherokee from me because they had the same vehicle exactly "back home" The testing guy refused to do the test because the " indicators" were not working in the front. Customer was furious with me for selling a faulty car. Turned up at the yard steaming mad. So I told him to put the hazards on ( to work out what bulb was blown) All working perfectly. -Ok indicate left /indicate right--still perfect. The testing guy had mistaken the corner covers next to the headlights for indicators. Then they point blank refused to organise another test for him even though the error was theirs.
marte,
Jul 28, 10:33pm
That would be pretty obvious before they even started, any driver should know that they shouldn't be driving a car that's not up to WOF and if somebody going to ignore the obvious defects in a vehicle then there's probably some not so obvious defects. Everybody knows that if a vehicle's fitted with a light, then out has to work, same with safety belts. MK4 Cortina is not fitted with rear safety belts, but if it's been fitted with them since, they have to comply.
richardmayes,
Jul 28, 10:36pm
My clipboard here says you handled that unique, unexpected emergency the wrong way. Fail.
That is only true with respect to mandatory lamps, a HMSL isnt a mandatory lamp on a pre 1990 car, it is completely legal to remove a non compliant non mandatory lamp There was no reason for not commencing the test given the vehicle was technically made compliant (at least as far as their walk around test was concerned), that is wasting somebody's time and money otherwise. I would have praised the young lad for knowing that, its doubtful that our so called road police would have known that one. It's also legal to remove non compliant seatbelts out of the back of your Mk4 Cortina if it was first regoed prior to whatever month it was in 1979 when they became compulsory if you want to!
martin11,
Jul 28, 11:56pm
That would not be a failure on the test . A tester cannot fail for that reason .
nice_lady,
Jul 29, 12:14am
Problem is that for every fail they get to retest. Double dipping on the payments they get. So of course they're going to look VERY HARD for reasons to fail. One I read of recently got failed because the test ran over time due to roadworks on the route. The TESTER had chosen the route. What stupid Sh*t. Sometimes I feel this country badly needs a Ministry of Common Sense with powers to override the more obvious of the daily stupidities we encounter.
jascas,
Jul 29, 12:57am
Yes I read that story online to and thought I would be very annoyed if that had happened to one of my kids
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