Come on show the rest of the dyno sheet! Its just a number,but the boooost level is getting up there ha ha
1ollie,
Jan 25, 11:25am
Well a reliable street spec RB30DET/2JZ-GTE is around $45,000 worth of setup i.e motor, induction, fueling, ECU and that which will make a reliable 1200+hp all day long! And not reliable! you clearly have no knowlege on that. 7L and there only making 700-1000hp! thats not very good at all. Dont get me started on the wank topfuel is the fastest wank wank! if the Japanese or even Euro guys put half as much money and quater as much time into a V8 engine they could no dout make the yanks look silly in the power and reliability area but theres no point in that as I believe ya cant go much faster due to aerodynamics.
ct9a,
Jan 25, 11:47am
interesting ,do you no what! i no it was then enzo then s2000 .
ct9a,
Jan 25, 11:50am
you could type pages and pages in a endless battle.times are changing the old stubborn folk are dropping off.
hey who won the performance car vs v8 drag day!
sifty,
Jan 25, 11:58am
All I know is my car gets 40 rods to the hogshead, and that's the way I likes it!
foxdonut,
Jan 25, 12:22pm
The Enzo uses a modified Tipo engine that never held any records.
The V8 in the Italia makes over 90kw per litre. They used to be called Dino Architecture but its changed to something new.
Its a pointless statisitic, only something ricers used to have as a counter arguement to why their little 4 and 6 cylinder engines were somehow better to powerful V8's. Sadly for them they don't even have that now.
Don't worry guys, fastest FF is still out there.
foxdonut,
Jan 25, 12:32pm
1200hp on a dyno maybe. Try not to sell yourself short. Djuric's "White Supra" made 1500 for a 1 run full boost show.
Peak HP doesn't mean shit for top speed. You need mass and broad spread torque. If your precious (old dinosaur) sixes like the RB and 2J were "the nuts" they'd still be used in manufactured cars today. Newsflash, they aren't. Even in GT500, the supreme level of Japanese motorsport all the winning teams are using V8's. Even the privateer Honda teams.
doug207,
Jan 25, 12:33pm
How long do you expect the 700-800hp RB to last! 100,000km if treated kindly! I'm not putting down "smaller" motors, but the larger one will be less stressed making the same power at lower revs, without the irritation of overly aggressive cams/lack of vacuum for brake assistance at lower revs. You can squeeze power out of anything, this has been proven. What motor configuration do you suggest for Europeans/Japanese to make that will out perform a Top Fueler! It needs to be 2 valve per cylinder, a four valve set up would melt the exhaust valves. The cams are under very major stress, having more will lessen the strength etc etc. I'm all for "high tech" motors, but, at the end of the day an unstressed motor is going to be happier and reliable and easier to live with. I'm not really going to have the pointless argument, I'd be stoked if an engine exceeding the top fuel performance was made, the Americans have the technology to do it, but, practicality and class rules are dictating how they perform. As for RB/2JZ being mega reliable etc, they are to a point, just like anything. I highly doubt you could run a 1200hp engine as a daily driver, unless it was very big and flexible. Yes, I love a good RB/2JZ etc. Just taking a realistic view from what has been trialed out there.
elenor,
Jan 25, 1:03pm
i run a couple of v8s but my drag car is rb30/25 powered, a 8k engine that lifts the front wheels and run in the 9s i could not build a v8 for that money,last build was a stroker 347 came in around 15k
jono2912,
Jan 25, 1:04pm
Here we go. again.
quickstitch,
Jan 25, 1:05pm
the V8s did.
trogedon,
Jan 25, 1:19pm
Leave your BAD LANGUAGE in the gutter.
wrong2,
Jan 25, 1:26pm
my god do you pull yourself something hard
wrong2,
Jan 25, 1:28pm
Ascari use the BMW 5.0 . they tuned it to 650 Hp NA
wrong2,
Jan 25, 1:31pm
the block & crank in both engines (RB26) are good till 600 hp
the RB30 blocks are not as strong as the 26 are , but still hang together
ollie has to be a teenager who has never built an engine before . hes a total "magazine info" tugger
wrong2,
Jan 25, 1:57pm
2.0 4 cylinder are perfectly ok in a sub 1400 kg car
you come across as big a dork as the OP
try taking a 2.2 honda accord for a drive & thenhave the balls to say they are gutless
we will know your full of it after that
1ollie,
Jan 25, 9:19pm
You sure are
hijacka,
Jan 25, 9:29pm
Some of which similiar technology is only starting to be used in holden and fords etc!
moosie_21,
Jan 25, 9:30pm
Maybe some of that money would be better spent on the 400 km/h Skyline!
1ollie,
Jan 25, 9:32pm
I have never said I am going to build one. But you are right maybe that money I spend on mags should go into my cars
doug207,
Jan 25, 9:50pm
The "technology" thing! Name some of this elusive technology.
foxdonut,
Jan 25, 10:02pm
Wow. You've definitely thought about this then.
You know the tyres on the Veyron, the ones that allow it to do 414kph. You don't buy those from Tony's. They were made specially for the car by Michelin. You can buy a set for around 50k, if you can get the 20 inch wheels they're made for, those are going to set you back another 20 thousand. Each.
Or you can just have a new tyre made for you, the PAX runflat Sport range was a part of the entire PAX project which cost around 10 million US is R&D. Oh, wait thats a bit more than 500k isn't it!
Why are they that price! Because road tyres or ricer magazine "street sports tyres" aren't capable of sustaining 410km/h for 1km, let alone the round trip that the car would need to make to break the record. And they need to be road rated tyres for the record. And you'll need more than one set.
On the subject. You're going to need a track. I'm pretty sure the Auckland motorway isn't going to be an option because you won't have the capital to pay the council to close it for you. Thats okay, I'm sure you can rent Ehra Lessien or Nardi for the day in your budget. Too bad you'll also need to transport the car to Europe, because thats going to go you another 10 grand or so.
This record breaking stuff is looking pretty expensive huh.
Glad to see you factored R&D and testing into your budget too, oh wait, you didn't. No insurances either, you'll need those, its a requirement of Guinness, who, by the way are usually accommodated for at the expense of the record attempt.
Yup, I can see people lining up to fund you pay someone else to do the work when you've clearly got a clear understanding of all the requirements needed.
pollymay,
Jan 25, 10:38pm
I have a 2.2 h22 turbo prelude in my garage. I have a V6 mr2 in that same garage and it gets wasted buy the honda on a circuit :( Also under that roof is a 560sec amg merc with some of their cool doodads, it wastes the honda on tarmac circuits. BUT if they race on gravel the mr2 is the best and then the honda then the merc. In an offroading contest the mr2 wins again. Drag race they are all about even. In the crash test the prelude wins then the merc then the mr2. However the V6 looks the coolest in the engine compartment, also it's blue and I like blue so it must be better.
Therefore I propose cause I own one and it can prove it's domination in a some example or another an early 90's V6 from a toyota is the bestest engine in the world and is better at everything than any other engine.
PS the 2.2 isn't gutless, it scares me.
doug207,
Jan 25, 10:51pm
That's the way.
Of course it's not gutless, the reference was made to a nice beige bog stock 2.2 h22a, they are not exactly powerful. I like the V6 MR2 idea, bet it sounds grouse.
1ollie,
Jan 25, 11:08pm
foxdonut well done you are a genuine winner! If you took it that seriously after the part where I said "give me the money and I will do it" you are one big dumbarse. God I love widing idiots like you up it makes my day lol
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