Thats great news they are fixing your car, who is footing the bill for the repair and does it still need to go to auckland!
mrcat1,
Mar 6, 9:53pm
Your not that bright are you, guess who owns the sole shareholding of 51000000 shares of Nissan NZ Ltd! You guessed it, Nissan Motor Company and guess where they are, Japan. So please explain how Nissan NZ are liable for warranty repairs but the manufacturer is not! Ooohhhh your also going to love this as well, guess who owns Mitsubishi NZ, yes you gueseed it right again, Mitsubishi Motors Corporation and guess where they hang out, yes right again, Japan. They only have the sole shareholding of 48000000 shares, so i suppose you are going to tell me now that the manufacturer doesn't pay for warranty claims as well. Before you come and play with the big boys, just make sure you know what your saying first.
savanna71,
Mar 7, 5:04am
Haha, i can see im going to need to break this down and spell it real slow for you. No one said thats not the case, most distributors are wholly owned by their parent company just that most distributors (in this case MMNZ) dont submit warranty claims to MMC for reimbursement, its covered by MMNZ a wholly owned subsidary of MMC is that seriously so hard for you to comprehend!
In laymen's terms (for you) the funds come out of MMNZ's account not MMC'S (doesnt get much simpler then that)
Thats why VW germany or VW NZ wont cover a VW sold in japan like you claim they will (still waiting for you to find a distributor that offers a world wide warranty thats not a metal detector or kettle or what ever else your dragging into it)
I can see that you a struggling to grasp this and to be honest i cant be bothered nursing you through it so perhaps stick to digging holes
mrcat1,
Mar 7, 5:27am
I see accountiung is not your strongest point either, as MMNZ is 100% owned by MMC, any warranty claims would come out of MMNZ's operating costs, and that therefore would reflect on MMC's profit or dividend paid from MMNZ to MMC. At the end of the day the manufacturer is paying for the warranty work (what ever way you want to spin that line) which is not what you have been saying, you were trying to make out that Nissan NZ was nothing to do with the manufacturer, were in actual fact it is 100% owned by it.
carstauranga001,
Mar 7, 5:29am
Savanna there have been many product recalls in recent years which have been rectified at no cost to the owner. These have included cars sold new here as well as those imported as used cars from Japan and other countries. I have had clients benefit from this. The client dosn't care who is paying. The reality is that no matter how these cars arrived in NZ they are protected under world wide warranties and over 25 years of used imports there have been court cases to get us to this point for the consumers protection. Obviousely this is something local suppliers don't want to shout from the rooftops as it would increase the sales of used imports at the expense of the franchise dealers.
carstauranga001,
Mar 7, 5:35am
I have also looked into English imports and it seems normal to get a world wide warranty with these now. I can buy a new Jaquar in England for example (for a lot less than here) and the warranty is covered here.
savanna71,
Mar 7, 10:41am
Recalls are totally differant as i have already stated as they have differant legal and reporting structures to NZTA, warranty does not
savanna71,
Mar 7, 10:52am
No the point i made was that warranties arent offered world wide and in most case are honoured by the local distributor and not reimbursed by their parent company. Warranty and policy books reflect this with a statement saying Nissan NZ LTD will be liable if a defect etc. etc. Not Nissan Motor corp will be liable, you confirmed this yourself
mrcat1,
Mar 7, 4:59pm
"Thanks for confirming what i said about Nissan NZ being liable not Nissan Japan, thats exactly what i have been saying MMNZ vehicles are sourced from MMC without warranty, the warranty is covered solely by MMNZ, i of course know this as i work for Mitsubishi"Your Quote
I told you it said it was a manufacturers warranty, you were trying to say that it was Nissan NZ liable not Nissan Motor Corp, Japan. And that Nissan NZ had nothing to do at all with Nissan Motor Corp.
Do you still not get it, Nissan NZ is Nissan Motor Corp, Japan. Whatever operating cost come out of their bottom line profit in warranty work comes of the income for Nissan Motor Corp, Japan. This is accounting 101. Unless you are the Financial officer or a company accountantant for Nissan Motor Corp in Wiri or one of the directors or on the board, how would you actually know how they work their accounting to Nissan Motor Corp, Japan.! How or what they pay for their cars, what forward currency they buy for the next shipment, their sales margins on each model.
gadgit3,
Mar 7, 5:40pm
Yea thats kinda the point I was making. last few pages waist of time. I was refuring to the fact it was out of manufactures warranty. the fact it is paid for is because you bought a 3rd party warranty that covers you and even if you didn't CGA lege suggests it's not your problem any how. Kaz has pointed you in the right direction no problem.
savanna71,
Mar 7, 5:49pm
I really cant be bothered wasting any more time on this, no where do any of my posts say that Nissan NZ is in no way connected to Nissan Japan, dont quite know how you came to that conclusion. And you were unableto verify your claim of manufacturers offering a world wide warranty so as far as im concerned its no longer worth wasting any more time or energy on
skyliner75,
Mar 8, 7:41am
Should have just bought a Toyota.
phillip.weston,
Mar 8, 9:09am
mrcat and others do you work for a car manufacturer! No! savanna does and has for many years. Sure there may be the odd maker (ie Jaguar) which offer a worldwide warranty (usually at extra cost) but the majority of car makers (especially the Japanese ones) have warranties which are null and void as soon as the vehicle is removed from its original marketplace. Whether VW is one of them it is unknown - perhaps someone should actually contact VW NZ themselves whether they will honour a statement from VW US/Germany before speculating! My guess is that they wouldn't.
kelsie21,
Mar 8, 4:40pm
Hey Kaz and Jazz I will keep you informed on what the repairs are etcand will request a detailed list of what was done excluding $
dr.doolittle,
Mar 8, 4:43pm
There's a big difference between a Car manufacture & a heavy machine manufacturer, as we know. perhaps thatsalso a diff. in their warranties.
stevo2,
Mar 8, 5:23pm
Good on you Kelsie, keen to see the outcome of this.
mrcat1,
Mar 8, 9:51pm
i do realise that, what i was meaning before the whole thing got side tracked is if they are offering that warranty in the states the OP might find VW here may still honnor it as a global warranty from VW, it would seem a bit unfair if they offered it in one country and not in others and as i also said in the beginning as it is a import it may have come from somewhere they also had that offer, all it would have taken is the OP send the vehicle details thru to VW in germany with a out line of its problems and they may have stepped in to fixing it if they are offering those 10 year warrantys elsewhere. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. And as i was also saying other manufacturers do have worldwide warrantys VW may also come to the party.
phillip.weston,
Mar 8, 11:38pm
yes absolutely agree nothing ventured nothing gained and it is indeed worth a shot, but the reality is they probably wont honour it.
Some makers wont even honour recalls once they have left their home market either!
kelsie21,
Mar 31, 7:02am
Hi Jazz and Kaz. still car is not yet fixed. waiting on a part to come from os. the problem so far is not with the trans. original person that decided it was missed a rather big noticable issue at the rear. More info soon, hopefully it will be back next week!
snoopy221,
Mar 31, 4:06pm
Kelsie In your locality the actual garages are well-IMHO- Not that proficient. NOW as to a vehicle going to auckland to the people ALLOWED to pull the automaic apart. That will only be one place IMHO. Eastern automatics.
May i politely suggest you google Eastern automatics
And perhaps simply describe what has hapenned [This in no way detracts from the GOOD advice of kazbanz-however you will NOT obtain a higher qualified independant opion about automatic transmissions anywhere]
Quotesnoopy221 (286 )1:56 pm, Fri 2 Mar #145 Good news-and really-good to see a **second opinion** And a better outcome from it.
thejazzpianoma,
Mar 31, 4:49pm
Thanks kelsie, I appreciate the update, it will be great to know exactly what it was in the end.
BTW, just a heads up for when you get it back. I probably mentioned this when you purchased it but l take it you know to run it on BP Ultimate 98 if at all possible!
You can run 95 if there is no other choice but definitely not 91 unless its just a few litres to get you home. Don't panic if you have been running the low grade until now but do change straight away when you get it back.
This is generally the same for all proper modern direct injection vehicles regardless of make. BTW, while 91 will harm your engine over time the difference between 95 and 98 is mainly just economy. On 95 for typical running the car will only be able to get into its ultra efficient "fsi mode" about 20% of the time. On 98 that jumps up to around 60%.
I hope you get it back soon!
(Oh and since it dosn't sound like the transmission is the fault, what was the go in the end with the transmission service! Was it definitely done before you go it along with the timing belt! Sorry you probably did tell me but just thought it would be good to check up on these things so you hopefully don't have any more issues.)
edangus,
Mar 31, 5:07pm
Yes. 1997 Primera CVT M6 (only 5 years old when it went)
mugenb20b,
Mar 31, 5:13pm
How many k's has it done at the time!
thejazzpianoma,
Mar 31, 5:14pm
The Golf dosn't cost 15K to replace the transmission either. That was just a silly price from a hick town garage without a clue.
It would also be a very very strange thing to replace a whole transmission. The guts of the thing is much the same as a manual transmission and generally harder to abuse. Generally if its not a clutch pack causing the trouble it will be one of the add on bits that does the automatic shifting, like the mechatronics or a valve etc.
Once you actually start working on these things it quickly becomes apparent they are pretty straight foward to deal with. Especially with regard to the regular servicing, its a piece of cake compared to an auto as there is no torque converter so just a drain and refill and an easy filter change. (There is just a trick to getting the level right thats all).
I can do one at home in less than 30 minutes working at a very leisurely pace. (and a lot of that time is just waiting on the transmission to come up to temperature)
edangus,
Mar 31, 5:17pm
180 odd (was my daily driver) pissed at the time, but oh well. Always serviced by Nissan. That frikkin gearbox oil was well expensive. Fantastic car though (Neowl) Kept it for a few more years after that.
Ended up doing a second handy (had to mod the shafts) but a Bluebird SSS one went in.never missed another beat.
Blimin strange when it happened though, sounded like a cv joint gone bung, then 3 secs later no gearbox at all. Engine was still smooth as
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