Why do people indicate when they

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skin1235, Apr 5, 6:25am
now now smac, you're thinking that the fact they're on the road means they can go wherever they like without letting other drivers have some clue about which part of the road they intend to occupy sometime in the next 5 km - this is just not the kiwi way, if my bonnet is in front of you you must move over or give way to me, if you happen to be behind me then stay there cos thats where you belong - and I don't have to tell you my intentions by using my indicators - you must use your indicators to tell me your intentions but I'm such a good driver I do not have to return the favour

lk104, Apr 5, 6:26am
Splitting hairs, of course you indicate changing lanes.
But going from 2 lanes into 1 is not changing lanes so why indicate! Its obvious you will be moving over when it turns into 1 lane.

skin1235, Apr 5, 6:28am
ah yes it is, you're moving from one lane to the other lane

your headspace is typical of too many, and the cause for stupid laws trying to legislate the morons into some sort of driving skill

skin1235, Apr 5, 6:33am
you can also indicate left at the end of the passing lane, indicating to the followers that you intend to stay left and allow yet another swell head to go through
but be aware you will be pushed out there and held to ransom by the 4 other swellheads behind the first one - none of which will acknowledge your move except when you run out of road and have to move back into the road lane, and then they will abuse you for getting back on the road proper

lk104, Apr 5, 7:39am
You arent moving into another lane so Im not indicating, It shoud be plainly obvious to others that the lane that Im in is ending,, where the hell else am I going to go!

lk104, Apr 5, 7:46am
Anyway the Road Code doesnt require you to indicate when merging from 2 lanes into 1, probably because its a no brainer!, you just to merge like a zip, not a lot of drivers know how to do that either, gotta be the one in front!
http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/merging.html

skin1235, Apr 5, 7:58am
the concept of using your indicators to indicate to others your intention is foreignto you!
you go by the rule that if it isn't written into law then you don't have to do it
that must make you feel very secure as you're driving along in your isolation and the knowledge that all others must guess what you're about to do next
personally I prefer to use my indicators for the use they were intended - indicating my intention to others - and I don't have to have a law designed to cover every possible scenario including foolish moves to tell me when to use them - I sometimes do use them to let others know what I'm about to do even if the law says I don't have to
45 yrs of some very hard roads and a hell of a lot of miles on them without pushing anyone off the road or causing an accident says I'm possibly doing reasonably well too

lk104, Apr 5, 8:04am
skin1235 wrote:
the concept of using your indicators to indicate to others your intention is foreignto you!

No, I use them where required by law, I drive to to the laws of the road, you obvioiusly have your own rules like many other idiots on the road. I bet you are one those who indicate right when you are going into a roundabout but go straight ahead.

skin1235, Apr 5, 8:07am
you probably missed this bit cos it isn't actually a law, but is common practice in a lot of areas skin1235 wrote:
you can also indicate left at the end of the passing lane, indicating to the followers that you intend to stay left and allow yet another swell head get through [quote]

skin1235, Apr 5, 8:12am
lk104 wrote:
skin1235 wrote:
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he concept of using your indicators to indicate to others your intention is foreignto you!

No, I use them where required by law, I drive to to the laws of the road, you obvioiusly have your own rules like many other idiots on the road. I bet you are one those who indicate right when you are going into a roundabout but go straight ahead.[quote]

if there is someone waiting at that next entrance I've been known to indicate my intention to enter the roundabout , or sometimes to indicate my intention to turn left on the first exit ie before I actually get to him, thus he can go ahead, if I am entering the roundabout I would indicate my intet to leave at the second exit so anyone waiting at the second entry can go ahead
It may not be in law but at least others know what my intentions are and can continue in safety - driving to the letter of the law as you state admits you are the common denominator the law was designed for, unable to think for yourself or have any consideration for others while doing it

lk104, Apr 5, 8:21am
Yep your one of those alright! You have an indicator fetish!
Indicate you are going right entering the roundabout, then go straight ahead. So everyone that is coming in the opposite direction from you have to wait to enter the rounabout because they think you are going to the 3rd exit then go off at the 2nd.

lk104, Apr 5, 8:22am
So is using a cellphone while driving, is that ok as well seeing as its common practice!

skin1235, Apr 5, 8:26am
common to who, due to idiots we had to have a law passed to prohibit it, and most cannot even comprehend the need for it or the danger of disobeying it, such an issue would not effect you, you drive to the laws of the roads, thus cellphones are never used in your cars, they sure are not in mine, cos I don't use cellphones - there is no reception where I drive

skin1235, Apr 5, 8:32am
meanwhile the guy at the first entrance is either quivering in anticipation or shivering in fear cos he has no idea of my intent. if I indicate right he knows I intend to cross in front of him, if I indicate left he knows I intend to leave before I get to him, when I indicate left while in the roundabout others know my intent to leave at that exit

but thats fine, the law says I don't have to put him out of his misery, the fact he can get on his way quicker and in a more stable mental mode is actually against the law according to you, if it ain't the law you must be breaking the law by doing it

why do you get so impatient about such a trivial thing, someone elses intent to forewarn ofhis intent is not actually causing any grief for you, or does the wee flashing light on another car disturb you

are you one who will stomp and scream and then drive straight into another cos the law says he shouldn't be on that piece of the road without indication, and as he didn't indicate you have every right under law to bludgeon him to death with your car while still complying to the laws of the road

lk104, Apr 5, 8:42am
Not quite, but I drive straight at you to put the shits up you and hopefully you may learn something!
But somehow I doubt you will.

skin1235, Apr 5, 10:15am
you are the reason we have to make laws for fools
even if I do indicate where I intend to go you are still going to to drive BY THE LAW, rather than by common sense and consideration to others on the road

the only good thing to come from all your responses is that you will probably not be on th road long, sad for your family but good for other road users

lk104, Apr 5, 10:26am
OK skin1235 you are really boring me now, sending me to sleep, probably like I would be doing if I was driving behind you.

therafter1, Apr 5, 10:39am
It appears that you may not have noticed the sign prior to the conclusion of the passing lane, it is a road narrows sign and it is the left lane that ceases to exist, so therefore you are required to indicate.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-signs/main-types.html

lk104, Apr 5, 12:06pm
Show me where it says you must indicate!
If you look at the link below, it says when you must indicate.
Merging from 2 lanes into 1 is not a requirement,
http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driving/merging.html

footplate1, Apr 5, 1:15pm
You indicate to show you are exiting.Makes sense if you are the driver waiting to enter the round-about and thinks your lack of indicating means you are continuing to another exit.

lk104, Apr 5, 1:27pm
Yes we got that, thread is about indicating when you enter but go straight through. We know you indicate when exiting.

therafter1, Apr 5, 1:37pm

skin1235, Apr 5, 1:59pm
hey therafter, it's a pointless exercise trying to tell an ignorant one what courtesy, consideration for others and common decency is, god knows the lawmakers have given up trying to pin it down hard enough to stop dicks finding a loophole they then consider demands that they use 'cos it's not against the law therefore it must be lawful to behave so'
The same ones who rant about someone cutting them off at the end off a passing lane' cos they were moving back into their rightful place in the right lane - and the law says they don't have to indicate such intention cos anyone can see the lane ends just up ahead, the same ones who get all aggressive if you change lanes in front of them without indicating - you may actually cause them to lose a whole 2 seconds of their life, and they WILL be quite entitled to run you off the road because you should not have occupied their private piece of the road ahead of them

ik104 is the type who will still be alongside when the passing lane ends, and he will never let you move into HIS lane willingly, suddenly the fact your lane has ended is not his problem, the law of the road does not indicate what he should do in that instance so the law of the jungle takes precedence ( even though he should not attempt to pass unless he can complete the movement safely - or is that just a consideration thing - not an actual law
he's also the type who puts his indicator on to turn left, and turns left, expecting anyone on his left to get out of his way
waste of oxy trying to talk to them

lk104, Apr 5, 2:39pm
PSML - No!

lk104, Apr 5, 2:41pm
Too much to read,you should just make a point, but you dont have one, just lots of waffle wah wah wah!