I disagree, having seen how unbelievably inefficient the Police are I think there is massive scope for improvement, even without spending any more money. NZ has a huge amount going for it that makes catching thieves really easy. I know because I have done it myself, in fact I have caught the same offender that the cops were supposedly chasing for 9 months multiple times in a fortnight. (Its just the cops wouldn't turn up to pick him up)
My Mother has found the same, she caught an offender that had been on the run for years in a matter of days.
The thing is the Police are so inefficient they are not even doing the most basic of things to catch criminals. The only resources we had to catch those to criminals were a Telephone and the Internet, so to say the Cops don't have the resources is crazy. If you think time is a lacking resource they have that too, when you consider the Police must have spent considerably more time than either of us on those offenders by the time we caught them. The difference is we were organised and followed through instead of just "going through the motions" filling out paperwork etc instead of actually doing the work.
This could all be changed, and surprisingly easily.
cowlover,
May 19, 9:03pm
Don't agree.How often have you seen a checkpoint where they are checking say seatbelts.Dont check wof/rego at same time.No they have a check point in same place a few days later when they do that.That's just stupid and a total waste of resources.It goes on all the time.Its called work smarter.The storu goes that thre are squillions of cars without wof running about.Impound them and problem goes away for ever.I saw somewhere that if a car is sold by the courts the proceeds are paid to the owner of the car.WTF is the point of that!.Te penalty should be that you loose the car and the proceeds go to the crown to pay for the cops/courts/legal aid.Hey don't get me started on legal aid - that would make a Jazz post look like a telegram!
johnf_456,
May 19, 9:05pm
Okay so why not take it a step further and take it beyond the messageboards! You feel strongly passionate about it, you never know what might happen!
thejazzpianoma,
May 19, 9:08pm
I have actually. However I still believe that making people aware of whats going on in any way I can (including the messageboards) is valuable.
Its pretty simple really, once people are aware of the issue its pretty easy to affect change. Right now my writing to MP's etc pretty much falls on deaf ears, once I am one of many though.
thejazzpianoma,
May 19, 9:11pm
Don't get me started on checkpoints!
I was stopped in one with traffic that was backed up through a 100km/h zone to half way around a blind corner. I pointed this out to the cop and the response was "You should have seen it before, it was backed up much futher than that"
*facepalm*
Whats the point in having a checkpoint to increase safety when the checkpoint itself is a major traffic hazard.
Again, thats just one example.
wasser61,
May 20, 6:38am
Me thinks you have had some issues with the local constabulary. And remember folks this comes from a guy so one-eyed in the automotive world that he can't see the roses from the horse poo. In all my dealings with the local bobby I have never meet a more professional bunch of people in my life, and that was even I was accussed of doing something that I didn't do. They acted professionaly and it was resolved within a couple of weeks.
wasser61,
May 20, 6:39am
It must be so hard when you are so perfect.
attitudedesignz,
May 20, 7:49am
Another case of not remembering what you've typed previuosly aye jazz.
TAKE NOTE EVERYONE, this may be the only time john_456 & myself agree on anything ever. So write this date in your diary lol.
Jazz, do us all a favour and stop being a "keyboard warrior" and get outside and do something about "the Police" in this country.
elect70,
May 20, 10:46am
20% recovery ratebut in what condition, even joyriderscause plenty of damage.Pays to have comp . insurance ,Ive had 4 stolen 2 ifound myself ( 1 outside cops house )other 2never seen again . Its not a priority for police .
mrfxit,
May 20, 11:16am
I would laugh . if this fight wasn't so sad. The pair of you have far better ways to get things done instead of moaning constantly here
Having lived in a few varied parts of this country, mostly for several years at a time, I have had both ends of this argument on my plate + being the crim (hey it was many many years ago & as a lost teenager).
For the larger part nothing much has changed apart from the cars/ uniforms & tech used by BOTH the police & crims, altho NOW the crims "know their rights" & the police are hounded by the "Politically Correct brigade" & media.
Same goes for todays teenagers as a PC taught pack of spiteful pansy's who "know their rights" & as most teenagers, love to bend the rules to suit them selves (BEND being very loosely used).
It was a sad day when the police could no longer "kick your butt home" & even sadder when those "butt's" got taught "their rights"
In that lot above, I have seeneverything that you two (Jazz & Attitude) are talking about. Yep it's still all there & only getting worse with the moral high ground being held in PC/osh/acc hands
mrfxit,
May 20, 11:19am
LOL ,,,Mmmmm "get outside and do something about "the Police" in this country." will only let a few ppl know whats happening. This being NZ's biggest public msg brd has a far wider spread of viewers.
pitchey,
May 21, 12:49am
Jazz, I think the problem is that your comments sound like your always "painting", if you will, the Entire NZ Police with a large house paint brush when you should be using an artists brush and painting those at the top, in charge all of this, not the bog stock copper out on the street who most likely DOES want to grab every burglar, car thief, sexo etc. by the scruff of their neck and lock them up.
delerium1,
May 21, 6:28am
you mean the HQ that those lower ranks call BS castle! your mum had a good turn out, after two of your family members are 'quite high up'! funny that,.
desmodave,
May 21, 6:34am
If its your car bugger the law.
attitudedesignz,
May 21, 6:39am
Why don't you read post #16 by me before you jump in and make silly statements.
savanna71,
May 21, 3:48pm
The lastinvolvement i had with the police is as follows
A young lady and her infant child came running to our house from accross the road as she was being assaulted by her partner naturally we called the police and offered the lady to await at our house untill the police arrived.
Over an hour and a half later the police had still not arrived and by this stage we needed to leave so thought we would again ring the police to find out what was going on and explained that we needed to leave, their response was that if we have to leave then tell her to go home as they dont have any officers to respond right now.
At this point i became frustrated and did make a smart comment (that i shouldnt have) saying cant you divert an officer from pulling people over for seatbelt infringements and send them our way, to which the watchhouse operater called me a ignorant w**ker and hung up on me
Approx 20 mins later by chance the ladies brother arrived at her house and with that she felt safe enough to go home, and it would have been at least another hour or more before officers arrived at our house, by this stage the lady had packed some of her belongings and vacated with her brother and her partner had left to who knows where. So officers were left trying to climb through an open window to confirm she infact had left and wasnt lying beaten or worse on the floor of her house.
So while i dont agree with Jazz on almost anything, this is one subject where i tend to agree
gunhand,
May 21, 3:52pm
There short staffed and can not be everywhere at once, and if the story is correct the woman and child were in no immediate threat when you first rung so yea, if there busy they will prioritise. Its the way it is unfortunatly.
savanna71,
May 21, 3:56pm
So why tell us to send her back home to her partner when we needed to leave! Im sorry but that is a completely unacceptable response by them and justification by you
gunhand,
May 21, 4:00pm
You will have to ask them that. I was reffering to the first call and there responce to it. And yes sending her back wouldnt be the best bet, but what else do you do! You could of left her at your place till you returned or were you away for some time! Womans refuge also available plus other agencies as well.
savanna71,
May 21, 4:06pm
But isnt it the Police's job to secure her safety and investigate the alledged crime! or do we now palm that off to Womens refuge. Either way this supports Jazz's claim that we do NOT have an effective police force
gunhand,
May 21, 4:09pm
Well why dont we!I agree it would be nice to have a copper on every corner but if that happens its going to cost you me and evryone else, And then there would be complaints about that as well.Ane maybe a bit of self control on behalf of the Fwits causing all the trouble wouldnt go astray either.
savanna71,
May 21, 4:14pm
So then what happens if Womens refuge follow the Police's lead and say they are to buzy! then who! Attitudes like that are why we are forced to face this situation, as average people condone and even offer justification for this type of policing
gunhand,
May 21, 4:23pm
Whats Womans refuge got to do with the Police problem! Are you saying all agencies will follow the Polices procdures now!Hmmm not a good comparisson really. And if Womans refuge are to busy as well you gotta ask why!Is there no such thing as self control, disapline amd actually obeying the laws anymore. So because we are becoming a country of drop kicks druggies and woman bashers its somehow th Polices fault they can not be everywhere at once. And before you use the, stop pulling up speeders and people not wearing seatbelts rant those 2 things are the simplist things to keep in check so perhaps blame wombles who can not abide by such simple rules for the Police not turning up.
footplate1,
May 21, 4:34pm
This is a fair comment.Poor parenting and PC school curricula have led to a total lack of respect for other people's personal well-being and their property.From the Police I know, they are doing their best.So too are the A & E people - who also have to pick up the mess.
I wish the Police could do everything - but they can't.
footplate1,
May 21, 4:36pm
Don't knock the pulling up of speeders, bad drivers and seatbelts.Experience has demonstrated that many such offenders are wanted/guilty of more serious offences.I still marvel how bogans draw attention to themselves but their idiot driving.
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