Dont you just love the modern car.

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doomy999, Nov 28, 3:37am
Well just congratulate your self that you are much more clever than me. :-)

go take a look at an old Falcon engine, then go take a look at something wth fuel injection, computers etc. Big difference and I dont have access to computers to diagnose etc. These days its all too hard.

If you are talking about my original post. Yes I could do the job myself.
Just at the moment, no shed no proper tools, etc.
Long story. But that wont be for long hopefully.
doomy999, Nov 28, 3:50am
Actually dont they have mechanics working on specific areas these days.
One that specialises in the mechanics, where as another specialises in the computer and electronics side of things!
Engineering of parts another side to it!
mrfxit, Nov 28, 5:04am
LOL good for them.
looks a bit like a cross between a Mk1 & Mk2 zepher front & a 56-ish chev back
intrade, Nov 28, 5:08am
what car!
intrade, Nov 28, 5:10am
no its called"mechatronic" meansa electrronics car engeneer. is the aprenticeyou do these days for modern cars.
mantagsi, Nov 28, 6:36am
doomy999, consider your troubles punishment for your trolling ways, what goes around comes around I guess :) And I agree with previous poster, if you can tear down and (successfully) rebuild a good old falcon boat anchor I am hard pressed to believe there would be many cars in existance that you couldn't do the sparkplugs on. With modern cars, the work is still able to be done, it just takes a bit longer and needs more care and effort, thats all. The flipside, as plenty of others say, is that with regular maintenance and the occasional pricey maintenance, modern cars just don't stop going.

I own an old beetle, and I had another one a while ago. I found that they needed (and one still needs) *constant* care and attention, Yes it is DAMN easy to do on a beetle, but with a lot of older cars it just goes on, and on, and on (like this rant) and never bloody ends. Sometimes it is easier to spend a few hundred and a saturday on my toyota, and boom, thats me done for a few years asides from basic service needs. Yeah, nostalgia is great but gimme a modern car when I just need to get to work and back every day
gunhand, Nov 28, 6:57am
I kinda agree about the modern car being harder to work on as well. In the old coons and HQs you could at least see both sides of the motor and evreything was reachable. Plus there was only 6 wires showing. Now days you open the bonnet and its a mass of plastic covers. And if you do want too do a simple plug change or something you have to have a special tool or have hands the size of a babys to get anywhere near the item. And at times 5 plugs are easy and the 6th requires 4 hours work. And if you do stop on the side of the road at 2am where do you start! Fuel is about it really (and maybe loose battery conection) and that assuming you ran out of it. Least with the old cars you could see where to start, fuelspark etc and actually test it on the side of the road with basic tools.
And when something major goes wrong theres alot of hit and miss fixing going on at times.But luckly for most modern cars are very relaible as a rule.
And god forbid your 2012 car dosn't get an electrical problem thats odd. An old HQ might have 50 feet of wiring all up (no idea really) but your new car will have 100kms of the stuff due to all the do dacky gizmo's.
doomy999, Nov 28, 7:08am
Well thank you very much. I'll take that under advisement. lol
doomy999, Nov 28, 7:09am
I love some one with a common sense outlook.
nzoomed, Nov 28, 7:30am
Mitsi Colt by any chance!
stevexc, Nov 28, 8:37am
I have to remove the intake to get at the rear bank in my Mitsubishi Diamante :(It's strange that they couldn't think of a better way, especially when you consider that every other service item on the engine is very easy to access.

It was so cheap that I really have no right to complain about it.
carstauranga001, Nov 28, 8:40am
Make sure they put a new set of points in too mate.
rob_man, Nov 28, 8:57am
Datsun 1200 SSS, a re-issue of those would be brilliant.
floscey, Nov 28, 9:21am
Someplatninum/iridium type plugs claim to have a 100,000km life . How often do you change ! what plugs would you put in ! at $250 bucks labour you would putting in the best you can get. Im guessing the plugs are about $25-30 bucks each .
sw20, Nov 28, 9:53am
Four genuine OEM Denso plugs for my 4AGE. $12.00 total from the dealer.

Changed in 10 minutes.
strobo, Nov 28, 12:39pm
#24Agree "just nuts & bolts" butI reckon more ;) Subarulegacy boxer twin turbos , pretty much similar lol, removing an inlet manifold re hoses & refitting or even just the removing of igniter packs & spark plugs. I would never everown one of these even though they are older now but a beautifulpiece of engineering. Just a littlebit stubbornto work on unless you are doing them every day. It's always easy when you know howor at least worked a few before , butfor anygood keen man or woman there are shite loads of booby traps in modern carsenough to keep anyone busy lol .Have to laugh off some who boast they can rebuild an engine with a crescent & screwdriver or can do anything ( now they have done some fitting) But understanding how things actually work adds a real meaning .Though have to admit I have come acrosssome very talented people that are not properlytrade trained &are very good at what they do .
Cars of today seem like asa cans of cola " savour the goodness from itthen throw the can in the bin"
strobo, Nov 28, 12:39pm
#24Agree "just nuts & bolts" butI reckon more ;)Subarulegacy boxer twin turbos , pretty much similar lol, ieremoving theinlet manifold re hoses & refitting or even just the removing of igniter packs & spark plugs. I would never everown one of these even though they are older now but a beautifulpiece of engineering. Just a littlebit stubbornto work on unless you are doing them every day. It's always easy when you know howor at least worked a few before , butfor anygood keen man or woman there are shite loads of booby traps in modern carsenough to keep anyone busy lol .Have to laugh off some who boast they can rebuild an engine with a crescent & screwdriver or can do anything ( now they have done some fitting) But understanding how things actually work adds a real meaning .Though have to admit I have come acrosssome very talented people that are not properlytrade trained &are very good at what they do .
Cars of today seem likecans of cola " savour the goodness from itthen throw the can in the bin"
doomy999, Nov 28, 7:49pm
exactly, and thats my whole point.
Hopefully your post is a wake up for some of the nay sayers in here.
matarautrader, Nov 28, 8:24pm
Yes they were the car. Easy to work on & cheap parts. Loved mine.
phillip.weston, Nov 28, 11:13pm
so what is this god awful car which requires $350 worth of work to change plugs on!
mazzyz, Nov 29, 12:09am
"dont you just love the modern car." - No, have recently been learning to work on late model euro cars, argh! 1/2 hr to remove all the plastic covers just to get to what you need to work on. Oil filters in the most hard to reach places, obscure hex head tools to remove things.Some of the parts prices are a real shocker too. Don't get me wrong, the new stuff is beautifully refined to drive, have all the creature comforts you could ever need and more you don't. But blardy hell, give me my simple old gal any day of the week to work on over the new stuff.
elect70, Nov 29, 2:43am
The other thing istodays cars are not meant to be 'reconned "thin wallor nickasilboresmeannew enginefrom dealer all nicelyshrink wrappedready to drop in .Be lucky to even buy valvesor able have head skimmed.I found out the hard way when ibought( for her indoors) a honda2 L prelude,