Mmm nice pic, pass, maybe I was just a little more careful despite being in my late teens with a hotted up 105E Anglia & Mk1Zepher
mrfxit,
Dec 1, 3:13pm
That whole pic has me doing the same
bluekiwi16,
Dec 1, 3:18pm
People have trouble seeing my husband in his truck, let alone his Goldwing which is the size of a Mini. People just need to slow down and look five times.
trade4us2,
Dec 1, 3:28pm
Focal length 200, from a long way away.
trogedon,
Dec 1, 4:38pm
The road looks fine - like most of the roads in NZ. Van with mags. Skid fest in the area this weekend. I wonder if the two are related. A very sad loss. The bike looks like a nice old classic too.
brummoi,
Dec 1, 4:43pm
bikes cutting the corner! Sad regardless
berg,
Dec 1, 4:58pm
Skid marks could be completely unrelated to this crash of course
desmodave,
Dec 1, 5:07pm
trogedon wrote: The road looks fine - like most of the roads in NZ. Van with mags. Skid fest in the area this weekend. I wonder if the two are related. A very sad loss. The bike looks like a nice old classic too.[/quote Wonder if that van had a wankel motor, not that it matters now. Rip bikers
theram1,
Dec 1, 5:09pm
or completely related, it will all come out on the wash.
freddie2711,
Dec 1, 5:29pm
Don't comment here often . but you are a dickhead through and through.
mrfxit,
Dec 1, 5:34pm
Brother just arrived from down that way & he's pretty sure he's seen that van at the factory. Timing would have been right for the worker leaving after doing a half day shift
trogedon,
Dec 1, 8:04pm
I thought that too re rotary.
kittthelegend,
Dec 1, 8:29pm
2nd weekend in a row where 2 bikers been killed by a cager.Last week was a tourist, same thing last year with a campervan in the south island. Bikes seem to be targets, because cars simply do not look hard enough sometimes. I didn't like the temporary NZer comment earlier, think that's a bit insensitive, especially knowing that allot of accidents are caused by cars, and bikes suffer the consequence. The funny thing is, ACC keeps coming up, the reality is, 2 thirds of motorcycle accidents are caused by car drivers not following the basic road rules.Yes often speed can be a factor, but if one looks before they pull out or do a U turn, they could effectively preserve ones life, and save a family from allot of heartache.ACC should be user pays as in root cause, rather than the victim. My thoughts go out to the families of all those affected, very sad day again for bikers.
stylefusion,
Dec 1, 8:56pm
The bikers passed me on my way through Inglewood this morning, we ended up pulling to the side to let them pass safely as they were all zooming in between cars, got a couple waves of thanks from them. Not blaming them at all for the accident however, I have no idea what happened. But personally I find it a bit stressful when I'm driving along at 100k and there are 10-15 bikers surrounding my car trying to pass, weaving in and out of traffic. How tragic though. Too many deaths on our roads :(
smac,
Dec 1, 8:58pm
Wrong. Over half are the bikers fault. Posted this earlier in the year: " From 2006-2010, of crashes that involved motorcycles:
31% were single vehicle (i.e. just the bike) and it was the riders fault - these are the cases where natural selection is at work
24% were multi vehicle and it was the riders fault
37% were multi vehicle, no fault identified with the rider
7% were multi vehicle, some fault identified with the rider
2% single vehicle, no fault
Interestingly as the severity of the crash increases, so does the likelihood of it being the riders fault: that is, riders were at fault more often in fatal accidents than they are in minor or serious injury crashes. This is in line with anecdotal evidence in the past that has said where it's the car's fault, it's usually a case of pulling out on front of the bike at an intersection (usually in town), whereas when it's the bike fault, it's usually high speed, high consequence. "
Why do bikers haver to pass all the cars for when most cars will be doing a 100 or 110 kay anyway,are bike speedo's diffrent or is it what they do.Do they think they have to be in front,please explain.
berg,
Dec 2, 5:43am
A simple answer to this one that occurs often I find is cars normally slow down for corners where, on a bike, you can often radius the corner differently using the whole lane and maintain the speed limit. Quite often I will pass cars that , on the straights are doing 100kph but slow to 80 for moderate bends. If the car driver is capable of maintaining a constant speed I will normally not pass. Another reason to pass is vision around intersections etc. On a bike you stand a better chance of being seen if you are approaching an intersection in front of the large lumbering 4x4 rather than being in a blind spot behind it. Often drivers waiting to pull out at an intersection will jump into a gap behind a vehicle right into a blind spot for a motorbike. Hope that explains it for you
berg,
Dec 2, 5:53am
If this is indeed the case with the van driver doing something incredibly stupid (let's wait for the full investigation before hanging him/her) the courts need to set an example that will discourage others. No more 12 months loss of licence and a moderate fine because "they were good kids really" for this sort of thing. 10 years loss of licence and 50% of their earnings/benefit paid to victims families for the same time period. Its high time courts took this shite seriously.
lmcrae,
Dec 2, 6:05am
Say that to my face you spineless fuck.
oliver6,
Dec 2, 6:42am
I'm not sure why you find that remark so offensive ! I have been a motorcyclist for over 40 years, and unfotunately, there is truth in that statement, in that motorcyclists are more likely to die or suffer injury than a car driver. The fact that ACC levies have increased to cover this, and not for other serial victims, is because it is easier to increase the rego !ACC levy for a motorcycle, than to charge rugby players, mountain bikers, pedestrians etc.
wrong2,
Dec 2, 6:45am
the bend in question, you can see ahead for ages & is a valid overtaking corner
valid that is if your not a clueless muppet
wrong2,
Dec 2, 6:50am
since the late 90's/ double 00's , motorcycles have had increased sales rates
more people with more cash for toys
more muppet car-mainly driving men & women riding their bike like they drive their car
i stopped riding back in 2008, but i have VERY clear memories of just how many riders i followed that were shockingly bad at bike control
the-lada-dude,
Dec 2, 6:53am
wake up fellas, he,s right in a way. moment you hit the saddle esp on the street, you become a lot more vunerable than joe hunt in his tank. the faster the wind thru those golden locks, the more the cards start to stack up against you. We all know about good defensive driving , once on that machine, you are now a defenceless rider. having ridden competition and street bikes, i,m well justified in having an opinion, and having been scraped off the road numerous times, it doesn't take long to figure the system out . at the end of the day, didn't matter who was right or wrong, it was me that ended up badly hurt .
bill-robinson,
Dec 2, 6:57am
how true
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